So confused- how to edit

[rbunker65]

I go into the game, I create a new template of the content, I want to make trackmarks, I create what i can, then I go test my route, etc... I have to go into "Drive" something, whatever it is... it takes me out of the edit mode, and I cannot get back to the edit mode???? I HAVE to be able to get back to the state where I can input trackmarks and other automated data.

I was thinking about putting like $1000 into screens and gaming hardware to play this game... but if I can't get AI to work well, there is no point.

Can someone please help he figure out what I am doing wrong that I cannot go "back" and edit things like splines, etc..., after I have a game kind of set up and "saved"????

 

[SailorDan]

Can someone please help he figure out what I am doing wrong that I cannot go "back" and edit things like splines, etc..., after I have a game kind of set up and "saved"????

You will have to get with the lingo if you want people to understand your problem - that's just the way it is.

I don't think you are creating trackmarks. I think you are adding them to your route.

I think you mean that, in Surveyor, when you are editing your route, and you have added some trackmarks to some track in your route and you want to test how they work, you go into Driver (QuickDrive, Ctrl+F2 or the icon in the menu bar nearest 'Main Menu") and you run your engines using AI to test the trackmarks. Then you decide you want to change something so you need to go back to editing your route in Surveyor.

Main Menu \ Exit Driver will take you back to Surveyor so you can edit the route that you were just driving. If that doesn't work for you then describe the exact process you are using.

 

[pware]

Have you tried reading the manual (I know, that is not what real railway men/nerds do)? You will find it in the Trainz Launcher --> File Menu --> PDF Manual.

Also, while you are in the forum reading this, click the Register link at the top of this page.

PS: By registering, we will all be able to see which version of Trainz you have and will be more willing to offer help, advice and suggestions.

 

[rbunker65]

I have registered. My version should be available.

 

[rbunker65]

You will have to get with the lingo if you want people to understand your problem - that's just the way it is.

I don't think you are creating trackmarks. I think you are adding them to your route.

I think you mean that, in Surveyor, when you are editing your route, and you have added some trackmarks to some track in your route and you want to test how they work, you go into Driver (QuickDrive, Ctrl+F2 or the icon in the menu bar nearest 'Main Menu") and you run your engines using AI to test the trackmarks. Then you decide you want to change something so you need to go back to editing your route in Surveyor.

Main Menu \ Exit Driver will take you back to Surveyor so you can edit the route that you were just driving. If that doesn't work for you then describe the exact process you are using.

Not sure we are talking about different things or not, but creating or adding trackmarks- not sure that matters for this discussion. Totally open to learning how you mean that is different. Not being a smartass. I think I am missing a point that might be pretty important, so please explain.

Secondly, I do what you are talking about. I go in, use surveyor, change things, save, go to drive, but I can not get back to surveyor. I mean, I guess I could go back or try to go back, with the initial "trials"... I have not tried that.... but WHY can I NOT get back to surveyor LATER in a saved version of a game??? This SHOULD be possible....

 

[crisger]

HI
you cannot edit the session or the route in a Save Game i believe.

there are 3 ways to "use:" a route. the first edit route, allows you to edit the actual route, that is not advised esp for a beginner. The second is Edit Session, see the buttons at the bottom of the screen where you see the sessions available. the third is DRIVE and then save the game. that does NOT save or do anything in Sureyor

and i do not see any versions of the game in your header. that is puzzling. It is important for us to help you to know if you are using an older version of Trainz or T:ANE the latest.

Chris

 

[SailorDan]

Not sure we are talking about different things or not, but creating or adding trackmarks- not sure that matters for this discussion. Totally open to learning how you mean that is different. Not being a smartass. I think I am missing a point that might be pretty important, so please explain.

Secondly, I do what you are talking about. I go in, use surveyor, change things, save, go to drive, but I can not get back to surveyor. I mean, I guess I could go back or try to go back, with the initial "trials"... I have not tried that.... but WHY can I NOT get back to surveyor LATER in a saved version of a game??? This SHOULD be possible....

Creating trackmarks means you are creating a new asset with your user ID as the first part of the asset kuid, and configured according to what you want the trackmoark to do. Adding a trackmark to the track in your route is something that you do in Surveyor by selecting the trackmark from the list and placing it on a section of track and giving it a name so that you can use the trackmark name in your AI commands in Driver. I would be pretty sure you are doing the latter.

You need to explain what you are doing to 'go back' from Driver, and what part of it isn't working. Is the problem that you can't find the Exit Driver option in the Main Menu, or that the Main Menu isn't shown, or that selecting it seems to do nothing, or that you can select it but it takes you somewhere other than Surveyor or that it takes you to Surveyor but the route is different, or something else?

 

[pware]

I have registered. My version should be available.

In that case put in a request to the Help Desk - a link is at the top of this page - that your game has not registered correctly and is not appearing in your "timeline" on your forum message headers.

 

[Richarde57]

About every problem in Trainz there's someone that has made a video of it.

So ask Google first and type: "how to ADD a track mark in trainz"

click: "Videos"

And there they are, lots of videos explaining your problem.

☼...☼

 

[rbunker65]

I can add a marker. I can use surveyor. Problem is, once I save a game and "drive", I cannot get back to surveyor. This is majorly annoying.

Why can't we get back to surveyor after driving a session??? I want to edit ongoing with a particular map/session. Edit, test, edit, change, test, edit...

This has to be possible. It would be idiotic to create a game that cannot do this.

 

[SailorDan]

This has to be possible. It would be idiotic to create a game that cannot do this.

Why won't you tell us what the problem is? Just saying you can't do it does not help in finding the solution. You need to describe exactly what you are doing, what you expect to happen, and what is actually happening. I think we have established that you are editing the route in Surveyor (although you might be editing a session - that should be clarified) and that you are then opening Driver and driving the route a bit. The method of getting back to Surveyor from Driver is described above. If you set out exactly the steps you are going through people can see what you are doing, and probably also see where you are going wrong.

 

[rbunker65]

What I am trying to do has already been described. Your response shows that.

But I'll explain it one more time.

I cannot get back to surveyor from drive. In a sessioin I go to main menu, use exit driver, and it takes me back to a session listing, WITHOUT "edit session" available.

What is the other way to get to surveyor, if there is one????

 

[Richarde57]

While driving a session:

Goto "Main Menu"
then goto "Exit Driver"

Don't save

After that you'll be AUTOMATICLY back in "Surveyor".
Do some edits, plant a tree or something.

Click "Drive Session" that's the little man next to button Main Menu.

Do a SAVE! Overwrite existing session.

Driver starts, trains starting to run.

Goto "Main Menu"
then goto "Exit Driver"

Don't save

After that you'll be AUTOMATICLY back in "Surveyor".
Do some edits, plant a tree or something.

Click "Drive Session" that's the little man next to button Main Menu.

Do a SAVE! Overwrite existing session.

Driver starts, trains starting to run.

Etc.

What can possibly go wrong with that?

☼¿☼

 

[SailorDan]

In a sessioin I go to main menu, use exit driver, and it takes me back to a session listing, WITHOUT "edit session" available.

That is a new and very useful piece of information. I think that you mean 'In Driver I go to Main Menu, use Exit Driver...".

It's possible that you aren't editing the route, but are actually editing a session. That could be confirmed if you indicate the options you are selecting to initially get into the edit procedure - are you selecting Edit Route from the Select Route screen, or are you selecting View Sessions, then Edit Session?

I can't find any way to select Exit Driver from the Main Menu and get the listing of the sessions for a route, IF driver has been started while editing a Route or editing a Session, which is what it appears that you are doing. However, if you start Driver by selecting Drive Session from the Sessions listing for a route, then you will be taken back to the Sessions listing when you select Exit Driver from the Main Menu in Driver.

However you get there, the Sessions listing should have two options. One is Edit Session - that takes you into Surveyor with the Session open for edit. The other is Back. That takes you to the Route listing, and when you select a route in that listing you have a Edit Route option.

If you do not have a Edit Session option in the Sessions listing (or you do not have a Edit Route option in the Route listing) then that would indicate that the currently selected session (or route) is locked for editing. Choose a different session or route. A Session that is created when you save it from Driver cannot be edited. If you are saving the Session when you exit Driver, then that might be the selected Session in the Session listing, and therefore there will be no Edit Session option. Select the Session from the listing that you were originally working on, and the Edit Session option should re-appear. Or, don't save the Session from Driver.

 

[Christopher824]

I go into the game, I create a new template of the content, I want to make trackmarks, I create what i can, then I go test my route, etc... I have to go into "Drive" something, whatever it is... it takes me out of the edit mode, and I cannot get back to the edit mode???? I HAVE to be able to get back to the state where I can input trackmarks and other automated data.

I was thinking about putting like $1000 into screens and gaming hardware to play this game... but if I can't get AI to work well, there is no point.

Can someone please help he figure out what I am doing wrong that I cannot go "back" and edit things like splines, etc..., after I have a game kind of set up and "saved"????

You have not said what version of Trainz you are using, nor is it on your timeline. You can do what you are saying you can't. If you are using TANE there is a know problem with the menu display, it has something to do with screen zoom higher than 125%, so if your running at 150% it will cut the menu off at the bottom of the screen and you will not be able to access the full menu, read these posts, it may help your problem.

Short Answer HERE

Longer Answer HERE on Page 7

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