Signal Experts....
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This is help full but i find even simple signaling at a junction is a head ache http://trains.0catch.com/tutorial.html
I haven't tried safetrans yet so I don't know if they're linkable or not, but with the regular USA signals I'd do it similar to what you have there except I'd use regular size signals at the approaches and dwarfs on the inside. Or gantries with a signal bridge, depends on how cool you want it to look. 
That's with the built in signals. Again, I've heard about new signals that have links like MSTS and Railworks, haven't tried them yet since I'm still a Trainz n00b and having enough trouble blowing up default stuff every time I push the plunger down. But a schematic of that shows it's a fairly simple junction, merely crossover crossback, all six approaches only have one facing point switch so only two possible paths for each approach without a backing move. So if you have signals that can be linked just interlock the whole smash, run the links all the way across both switches.
Primary straight route links;
Secondary diverge route links.
That's with the built in signals. Again, I've heard about new signals that have links like MSTS and Railworks, haven't tried them yet since I'm still a Trainz n00b and having enough trouble blowing up default stuff every time I push the plunger down. But a schematic of that shows it's a fairly simple junction, merely crossover crossback, all six approaches only have one facing point switch so only two possible paths for each approach without a backing move. So if you have signals that can be linked just interlock the whole smash, run the links all the way across both switches.
Primary straight route links;
Secondary diverge route links.
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Retro00064
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The Smart Signals by Justin (Norfolksouthern37) can be set up like this. You define the straight path through the junctions in the properties dialog for the signal. So, for example, if the signal at the top left of this diagram with the down-pointing arrow was a Smart Signal, then you would set its path in the Properties dialog to R,L to define the straight path as straigh ahead.
Besides the functions of the Smart Signals, the quality of the modeling is great; Justin's GRS searchlights beat the crummy old Auran searchlights deep into the dirt any day.
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Retro.
Way to go!
Can't remember whether it was the bottom head or middle, but I had the same trouble with railsim/railworks triple head signals - however you linked them one of the three heads never changed aspect. Finally gave up and planted a single head gantry on top of a double head post linked to the far switch, which gave me the aspects I was looking for. Unfortunately railworks AI trains don't pay any attention to signals so I ended up here. :wave:
Can't remember whether it was the bottom head or middle, but I had the same trouble with railsim/railworks triple head signals - however you linked them one of the three heads never changed aspect. Finally gave up and planted a single head gantry on top of a double head post linked to the far switch, which gave me the aspects I was looking for. Unfortunately railworks AI trains don't pay any attention to signals so I ended up here. :wave:
norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
08 or 06 will work here, identical setup for both of them.
i dont understand why defining the straight path is confusing to some people but i am working on some examples and a manual to help with this. here are some tips though.
lets take a signal in the image above, say the lower left one.
to set this up we need to know 2 things.
1. what we want this signal to consider the straight or normal path.
2. the number of junctions this signal needs to 'see'.
both of these are defined with the L, R, F links in the properties panel. now in case you couldnt figure it out, L is for LEFT, R is for RIGHT, and F is for FORWARD. F is there because its possible to create a 3 way switch in trainz that will return that value.
now back to the signal. if i look down the track i see that in order to go straight, the first junction must be set to the LEFT. easy enough yea? so i set the first entry to L. now here is where it might get tricky, i come to the next junction, and in order for me to pass through it, it needs to be set to RIGHT. there are no more junctions for this signal to look at, so i have my end result of:
L,R
i dont understand why defining the straight path is confusing to some people but i am working on some examples and a manual to help with this. here are some tips though.
lets take a signal in the image above, say the lower left one.
to set this up we need to know 2 things.
1. what we want this signal to consider the straight or normal path.
2. the number of junctions this signal needs to 'see'.
both of these are defined with the L, R, F links in the properties panel. now in case you couldnt figure it out, L is for LEFT, R is for RIGHT, and F is for FORWARD. F is there because its possible to create a 3 way switch in trainz that will return that value.
now back to the signal. if i look down the track i see that in order to go straight, the first junction must be set to the LEFT. easy enough yea? so i set the first entry to L. now here is where it might get tricky, i come to the next junction, and in order for me to pass through it, it needs to be set to RIGHT. there are no more junctions for this signal to look at, so i have my end result of:
L,R
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Hmmm, but what's the third head for then? One problem I see, what if the first switch is right and the trailing points of the crossover from the right track to the middle track are set for the crossover? Would you get some kind of approach diverge or would they all be red since they couldn't trace a path to the next signal down the line?
Odd part with the linking type is if all four switches ahead are set for diverge you would get green over red for a double head, since the path would cross over to the center track and back to the left, which the signal would read as an uninterrupted path to the primary link same as if the switches were straight. :hehe: I gather from what you're saying is these would be better defined as "scriptable" rather than "linkable"?
Odd part with the linking type is if all four switches ahead are set for diverge you would get green over red for a double head, since the path would cross over to the center track and back to the left, which the signal would read as an uninterrupted path to the primary link same as if the switches were straight. :hehe: I gather from what you're saying is these would be better defined as "scriptable" rather than "linkable"?