Should American rail transportation be made public?

As the videos so aptly confirm, the worst thing to happen in the US was the Harvard MBA business model:
-Lower costs to absolute minimum (Except executive salaries and perks, of course), especially the cost of labor
-Maximize short term profits to the sacrifice of anything long term and get out with the money
-Buy out the competition
It has been going on since the nineteenth century, and it never gets better.
I have seen plenty of really good companies go down the tubes the minute they hired a Harvard MBA. But the MBAs ALWAYS leave with the golden parachute.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCBI3lPt3o4

Should the federal government take over freight railroading? In spite of unions, railroad workers get shafted still.

Would a govt. takeover even make things worse?


To directly answer your question, no I don't think the federal government should take over the freight railroads.

What I do think the federal government should do is take over the rail infrastructure. The tracks, signals, dispatching, stations, etc. Routes can then be "leased" out to private operators who will operate a regular service on the lines they bid for. You would need to have a government-run operator of last resort, to cover any gaps in service the private companies don't get.
 
As the videos so aptly confirm, the worst thing to happen in the US was the Harvard MBA business model:
-Lower costs to absolute minimum (Except executive salaries and perks, of course), especially the cost of labor
-Maximize short term profits to the sacrifice of anything long term and get out with the money
-Buy out the competition
It has been going on since the nineteenth century, and it never gets better.
I have seen plenty of really good companies go down the tubes the minute they hired a Harvard MBA. But the MBAs ALWAYS leave with the golden parachute.

Do YOU have a better business model than that?

a. Which model best benefits consumers?
b. Which model best benefits human health and well-being? We all know how healthy coal and fossil fuels are for the lungs when it burns and blackens the air.
c. Which model best benefits company employees?
 
Yes! The big issue in the UK is the need to re-nationalise and reintegrate our national railways, something supported by a large majority of the population. Railways work better when they're publicly owned!

Paul
 
JonMyrlennBailey, I guess I would propose a business model more like the following:
- Invest in your employees, and allow them ownership in the company - both sides win
- Invest in the long term. For your customers, for your employees, and for your stockholders
- Beat the competition by providing better service
- Perhaps the Deming method of statistical analysis and process control
I think these if done right would cover a, b, and c of your questions.

I would like to see us not stray from the OP though. I apologize if I have side-tracked the original intent of the thread.
 
Ho boy this got longer than I was expecting!

I'm honestly split on this. On the one hand, the system we have now isn't sustainable or really great for the country. Growth for growths sake only lasts so long and its rarely good for 99% of anything it touch's and having the big 4 control a massive part of the transport infrastructure is not great to say the least.

On the other hand, full government control is GREAT for passenger, but freight is neglected ( at least from what I've seen, pinch of salt and all that). I'm mostly going off BR and Conrail here but it seems as soon as something that big comes into power, things like branch lines, single car a week, and "when we need it" service's fly right out the window and into the path a a truck replacing said rail service, witch isn't great. It can also fall prey to something as stupid as the beaching report, because the controlling entity said "figure it out" and doesn't have the care/ time/ ability to actually look at how it was figured.

This isn't the end of the world in a place like the UK, where the loss of small (ish) fright service was taken over by trucks but the volume was manageable, for a time. In the US, with trucking already being a terrible job that you can barely survive on unless you own your own rig (witch could cost the same as a half decent house) and the sear volume of freight still hauled this way, and THOUSANDS of miles of branch lines that are just barely clinging on, it would be a disaster. We are already seeing some of this happen (why I said a big entity, not just the government) with the class 1's. PSR and the drive for unit trains is making the close down branch's, not because they lose money even, but because they don't make enough. and if they DO lose money, the rails are being ripped as we speak unless a little short line offers to buy it.

Not to mention we are only kidding ourselves if you think some federal rail wouldn't still have to make a profit. I believe as of a few years ago Amtrak has to be 100% self funding witch is why they are desperately trying to make the trans con trains less of a sink.

I think it would almost have to be some sort of hybrid. Maybe nationalize the big 4, leave the rest but put price regulations and incentivize branch line survives or something, I'm not sure. after the glorious workers revolution it wont matter anyways! :hehe:

This has been my TED type.
 
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