Railroad capitals of the U.S.

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Which major American cities would you consider the "railroad capitals" of the nation?
When I say "railroad capitals" I suppose I mean cities that...

1) See a great deal of freight traffic
2) Have an extensive passenger rail network (commuter and/or rapid transit)
3) Have a rich railroad history

Let's say if a foreign railfan was to visit the country, and wanted to know which big cities to visit, which would you recommend?

I am not trying to start a "my city is better than your city" thread, so let's refrain from declaring that any city is #1.

With the criteria above, off the top of my head, I'd nominate...

- Boston, MA
- Chicago, IL
- New York, NY
- Philadelphia, PA

...but that's by no means an extensive list.

Any other nominations?
 
Kansas City, MO and Kansas City, KS.
New Orleans, LA
Miami, FL
North Platte, NE
Richmond, VA
Worcester, MA
Springfield, MA
New Haven, CT
 
New York
Boston
Philadelphia
Washington DC
Chicago
Saint Louis
Denver, maybe?
Los Angeles
San Francisco

Illinois has quite a few historical rail museums; and I haven't been, but I certainly recommend the Orange Empire Railway Museum out in California. I've seen videos and photos and I am planning to go one day. It depends really though what the interest is; general attractions, passenger, goods, interurban/traction, etc. You can also experience quite a bit with local transportation systems; the extensive networks in Boston, Chicago, NYC and Philly come to mind. There's quite a wealth of attractions for rail enthusiasts of any stripe.
 
I'd have to nominate:
Salt Lake City, UT
Cheyenne, WY
Portland, OR
La Grande, OR
Pocatello/Idaho Falls Area, ID
And of course it's already been posted, but you can't have enough votes for it, North Platte, NE!
Richmond, VA
 
Scranton, PA
Pittsburgh, PA
Harrisburg, PA
Altoona, PA
Akron, OH
Cleveland, OH
Cincinnati, OH
Chicago, IL
St. Louis, MO
L.A., CA
San Fransisco, CA
 
May I suggest people add to their nominations the "why" you consider these cities railway capitals?

Currently I just see a list of cities posted and the foreign railfan does not know what to expect or to look for in those cities. Museums? History (so nothing visible)? Lot of traffic (like what)? Large yards? Multiple RR's? Facilities? Do tell!

Let us, the "foreign railfan's" (which could just be someone from your country not familiar with that specific city) know!
 
Atlantic City, because of the CNJ-RDG-PRR interchange. Jersey City NJ, For CNJ-B&O-RDG-PRR lines and stations, and Pittsburgh, for many railroad interchanges
 
Well I nominate Salt Lake City first because it is the link between Central Pacific's and Union Pacific's ends of the Original American Transcontinental Railroad (Not exact, its at Promontory Summit 66 miles to the NW of Salt Lake, but its still within driving distance and would be sight you'd never forget.). They still recreate the driving of the golden spike there as well, bringing out replica's of Central Pacific's #60 and Union Pacific's #119 steam locomotives to recreate it.
Cheyenne, WY is home to the UP steam program and has a still operating round-house. Plus it of course is on the UP Transcon, so you can expect to see tons and tons of freight trains crossing Sherman Hill. Sherman Hill where the Transcon crosses the Continental Divide at an elevation of 7,960ft.
Portland, OR is home to 2 UP yards, and 2 UP intermodal terminals. Plus Trains going from Seattle, WA always have to pass through Portland to get east. Plus there's also a BNSF yard in Portland and quite a few BNSF Trains roll through. And if you're a scenic person, then the wonderful sights of Mt Hood, and the Columbia River Gorge (With UP and BNSF tracks on each side of the river) are a must visit location!
As a railfan, you couldn't possibly visit Oregon without paying a visit to the Blue Mountains line (Consist of both the UP Hunnington Sub and UP La Grande Sub) La Grande just happens to be situated between the major points of Nampa, ID and Hinkle Yard just outside of Hermiston, OR. It is the helper (Still is too) district between both the 2% Grades going east or west. Plenty of trains traverse this line. It's situated in of course, the Blues Mountains District, along with the Baker Valley, and my favorite, the Snake River valley. Splendid sights out there, been there several times. Love it each and every time!
Pocatello, ID is home to probably Idaho's largest yard, the Pocatello Yard. It's situated on a link that comes north out of SLC and rolls east from there linking Portland, and Seattle to the rest of the eastern cities. A branch line extends off to what used to be a UP link to the north and small transfer yard at Idaho Falls, ID. Plenty of good freights traverse this line as well. If you like traveling from state-to-state, then you'll want to follow the UP Pocatello Sub a little further South and West where there is the crossing of the Snake River over the American Falls Dam. You can then follow the line out to Minidoka, ID where there is an old UP steam days water tower. Plus there is a small interchange where cars will sometimes go over to the Eastern Idaho Railroad, A class 3 covering from of course, Minidoka, ID over to Twin Falls, ID. If you love that old power, then the EIRR is your dream. They have a fleet of classic EMD locomotives, including GP30's, GP35's, GP38's, GP40's, and even GP50's. If you continue to follow the UP line out of Minidoka, it transitions into the UP Nampa Subdivision. The beautiful Idaho Sawtooth Mountains are often visible from the line, and if you go in spring or fall, they are snow capped while the ground in the valley is yellow, adding to the natural beauty of the line. If you're a friendly crew fan, I've been covering this line now for about 14-15 years, and I've only gotten one middle finger. All the other times, waves and hornshows. Bliss, ID through to Reverse Grade (aka Medbury Hill) are wonderful spots nestled along the Snake River Gorge in South Central Idaho. You'll find that a lot of relics of the steam days remain. They have the water towers, the phone booths where the crews would call in if they had an issue, and many of the telegraph lines still remain.
North Platte, NE of course is home to the largest railyard in the world. Bailey's yard takes up an area of about 8 square miles. Where else can you see over 100 trains a day flash past? And of course, they have North Platte Railfest every year, bringing in the UP steam, the E9's, 6936 the last remaining operational DD40AX, and the UP Heritage Units (UP 1996, 1995, 1989, 1988, 1983, and 1982). At Baliey, you can see up to 8 trains at one time being refuled, 11 1+ mile long trains could be on lay over at any given time. Its insane.
I know this post is a bit biased towards UP, but UP is America's oldest Class 1 at 152 years old and I love the UP railway. I have so many memories with them. So I say if you want memories, visit anything to do with the Union Pacific Railway
 
Hamlet, North Carolina - Best place to watch trains in NC.
Jacksonville, Florida - CSX (former ACL) headquarters.
 
Kansas City has some fantastic places to railfan. There are over 10 major yards including 4 class I railroads. The KCS, UP, BNSF, and NS. Amtrak's Superchief stops at historic Union Station and 4 trains daily to and from St. Louis. The West Bottoms in Kansas City, Mo or Sante Fe Juction can provide views of multiple trains at several angles 24 hours a day.

I saw a recent stat that KC passed Chicago in rail freight tonnage last year. Here's a historic map by the Milwaukee Road. All of these yards are still in use today. The BNSFs enormous Argentine yard is also pictured.

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This is Union Station. It has a great bridge / platform for railfanning on the north side of the station. The KCT (Kansas City Terminal Railway) has 3 lines here that carry traffic every few minutes.

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Richmond, VA
Norfolk, VA
Roanoke, VA
Washington D.C.
Chicago, Ill
New York, NY
Boston, MA
Saint Louis, MO
North Platte, NE
Sacramento, CA
Kansas City, MO
Denver, CO
Atlanta, GA
Salt Lake City, UT
Altoona, PA
Detroit, MI
Philadelphia, PA
Railroad, PA(Not much of a RR capital but it is RAILROAD, PA so...)
Los Angeles, CA
Baltimore, MD

I know there's a few, but they're the biggest I could think of, I'd say Chicagoland is the Rail capital of the world though...
 
May I suggest people add to their nominations the "why" you consider these cities railway capitals?

Currently I just see a list of cities posted and the foreign railfan does not know what to expect or to look for in those cities. Museums? History (so nothing visible)? Lot of traffic (like what)? Large yards? Multiple RR's? Facilities? Do tell!

Let us, the "foreign railfan's" (which could just be someone from your country not familiar with that specific city) know!

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Shockingly enough I nominate Kalamazoo, MI.

Why? It's history, of course.

Kalamazoo has a unique railroad history and with a trained eye you can see a lot of relics around town. We have one of the last operational interlocking towers in the state (BO Tower, affectionately known as Body Odor Tower. Still has original CR lettering) as well as NYC-era Type SA searchlight signals. Both are due for removal in 2015.

A lot of the CPs on the north-south line and near Gearhart Yard still have CR lettering, most notably CP West Botsford. An old semaphore signal stands near CP Gibson locked to "approach" for northbound trains.

In the backwoods of Kalamazoo (aka the rather violent Northside) you can find old bridges, track, etc. There used to be 3-4 railroads that either ran through or interchanged in downtown Kalamazoo. All that ended in the 20th Century.

Outside of town the old CR South Haven branch was turned into a rail-trail. There are still mileposts as well as other rail-related relics on the path. The path crosses CSX Grand Rapids Subdivision in Grand Junction, MI.

NS inherited the the line from Conrail in the split. Heavy amounts of rail traffic pounded the diamonds all day and some times into the night. Every few hours there was a train. Most notably were trains 36J, 38E, and 39E. 36J ran Elkhart-GR with a mile-long consist of 86 footers and mixed freight. 38E and 39E were Elkhart-Jackson that stopped in Kalamazoo to set out cars for points north, south, and west (notably the B-1-G local, usually with two ex-CR Geeps 3066 and 3067) and a crew change. Several other trains came via Kalamazoo. We were once a very busy place until 2009 when NS left the area and turned it over to Watco.

Today there are a total of eight (8) daily Amtrak trains (6 Wolverines, 2 Bluewaters) however that number has risen to 10 for trackwork on the east side of the state. Grand Elk, the Watco company, operates their freights on a somewhat regular schedule, with the road train (302) departing in the morning for Elkhart and 501 (the mainline road-switcher) following shortly behind. 303 (Kzoo-GR yard transfer) runs every few days. The whole line is dark territory with the exception of junctions such as GR, Kalamazoo, CP Park near Schoolcraft/Three Rivers, MI and Elkhart.

GDLK interchanges with NS in Elkhart, CN at Kilgore Yard, Michigan Southern in White Pigeon, and MQT/GRE/CSX in Grand Rapids.
 
Hamlet, North Carolina - Best place to watch trains in NC.
Jacksonville, Florida - CSX (former ACL) headquarters.
I'm so glad to someone mention Hamlet. Being that it's 90 miles north of me, the history in this town is very rich.
I'll also add in Savannah,GA-Charleston SC, Columbia SC (For it's railroad heritage-Columbia was severed by ACL, SAL, Southern and Columbia Newberry and Laurens)
We also have Waycross, Rockymount,Florence SC, Spartanburg,SC
 
As some have already mentioned, Philadelphia is a railroading mecca, both historically and today. It's the home of the former Standard Railroad of the World, the Pennsylvania Railroad, as well as the Reading and Conrail. It's the home of Baldwin, Brill and Budd. It was, until a few years ago, the operation base of much of Amtrak, including most Northeast Corridor functions. Philly has one of the most extensive commuter networks, mostly operated by SEPTA, featuring just about every mode of rail. There are 13 regional rail (commuter) lines, 4 heavy rail (one operated by an independent organization, PATCO, into New Jersey). There are 6 remaining electric trolley lines, 2 electric interurban, 1 diesel light rail (operated by New Jersey Transit) and a diesel intercity line to Atlantic City, also operated by New Jersey Transit. Additionally, there are a few trackless trolley routes still in operation. There are a large amount of freight operations into and through the city via CSX, NS, D&H, and Conrail Shared Assets. There's waterfront and street operations; freight on the Philadelphia side of the river, light rail on the New Jersey side. There are a couple steam and diesel tourist operations outside the city. Of course, Philly is a major destination of the NEC and also where the Keystone Corridor branches off to Harrisburg. Historically, it was also a center of electric freight activity, which continued in a form until the early 2000s, when the Post Office adjoining 30th Street Station shut down. Plus, it's an all-around cool city.

I would also recommend any traveller to the eastern U.S. check out Altoona, a couple hours west of Philly. Altoona is a city essentially built by/around the PRR and is still a major mountain through-route featuring 50-100 trains a day. The Horseshoe Curve is a grand national park with great views of the action. There are a few trackside hotels (unfortunately, the wonderful Tunnel Inn in Gallitzin recently closed, though) are located nearby and the NS Juniata Shops and the Railroader's Memorial Museum are right in downtown Altoona itself.
 
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