PRR and NYC Blue Ribbon train consists

[jacksonbarno]

I have recently come across some consist information for some PRR and NYC trains that don't usually get much attention. I also came across some gifs that make it easy to somewhat give an idea of what the consists might look like, although they are shortened to comply with the picture limit:

EDIT: I can't seem to get the images to reliably work. For now I'm deleting them. If I find a way to get them working, I'l put them back up.

First: The Trailblazer, numbers 76 and 77: New York - Chicago, All Coach


PLB85R Baggage Lounge
3x P85bR Long Distance Coach
PLC85 Lounge
D85 Twin Diner set
3x P85bR Long Distance Coach
POC85AR Coach Observation

 

[jacksonbarno]

Next: The Gotham Limited, numbers 54 and 55: New York - Chicago


2x BM70M Baggage Mail
B60 Baggage
P70 Coach
3x P85bR Long Distance Coach
D70DR/CR Twin Diners (Bumped from the Trail Blazer)
21 Roomette Sleeper
2x 12-1 Heavyweight sleeper
10-6 Sleeper
Solarium obs

 

[jacksonbarno]

The Red Bird, numbers 7 and 8: Chicago - Detroit: All Coach (In December of 1948 just a few months away from being discontinued westbound (?))


PB70F Coach Baggage
2x P70GS Coach
P85bR Long Distance Coach
D70DR/CR Twin Diners
P70r Coach
P85bR Long Distance Coach
P70GS Coach
POC70R Observation

That's all for today, the website where the gifs came from is: http://universalrailroad.web.fc2.com/

 

[Thai1On]

Nice find as I'm always looking for named passenger consists. :Y:

Dave

 

[jacksonbarno]

Two, or three more depending on how you count:

The Pittsburgher, numbers 60 and 61: New York - Pittsburgh: All Pullman

BM70M or BM70n Baggage mail, depending on what was available
2x 12-4 Duplex sleeper
10-6 sleeper
2x 21 Roomette sleeper
D82 diner (or a D78F diner, both were regulars on the train)
4-4-2 sleeper
2x 18 Roomette sleeper

Sometimes a coach would be tacked onto the end of the train for people going to/from New York to Pittsburgh. It was still considered an all-pullman train however, as these coaches were not regularly assigned to the train

 

[jacksonbarno]

Next up is the Duquense, numbers 74 and 75: New York - Pittsburgh

This looks more like a mail and express train then a passenger train. This is because this train usually an in two sections: one for the mail and express traffic, and one for the passenger cars and maybe more mail and express.This consist would have been made up of just about any mail and/or baggage cars that would have been available that day.

 

[jacksonbarno]

Part II of the Duquense, numbers 74 and 75: New York - Pittsburgh


After the headend cars, which would vary from day to day, the consist would look like this:
P70 coach
POC70R Observation (Fitted with a diaphragm to connect with other cars)
P85bR Long Distance coach
D78 Diner
P70GS coach
P85bR Long Distance Coach
2x P70GS Coach

The passenger section would have been coach and parlor cars only, as this was a day train. One of the prewar POC70R Observations was fitted with a diaphragm and used as the lounge car midtrain. The consist of this train would have varied from day to day, as this was one of the secondary east-west trains between NY and Pittsburgh.

 

[jacksonbarno]

Time for some Great Steel Fleet

The Pacemaker, trains 48 and 49: All Coach: New York - Chicago


A typical consist for this train would usually be:
Baggage dorm or baggage lounge
3x 56 seat coach
Budd twin diners
Budd tavern lounge
3x 56 seat coach
Budd tavern lounge observation

 

[jacksonbarno]

The New England States, numbers 27 and 28: Boston - Chicago

Budd baggage dorm
2-3x 56 seat coach
Budd 44 seat diner
Budd 10-6 sleeper
2x Budd 22 roomette sleeper
Budd 5 double-bedroom buffet lounge observation

Because of the mountainous terrain between Boston and Albany over the B&A, the NYC used passenger F3s for this train in lieu of E7s. As time went on, the passenger Fs eventually gave way to Alco PAs around 1951 as their last mainline assignment on primer trains over the NYC.

 

[PBY357]

I don't know why, but I cannot see any of the pics, I am very interested in these though.

 

[jacksonbarno]

I can't seem to get the images to reliably work. For now I'm deleting them. If I find a way to get them working, I'l put them back up.

Anyway, I have another consist:
The Detroiter: I can't seem to find the train numbers. NY - Detroit, All Pullman.

This was the NYC's top train in the NY-Detroit market. In 1948, everything that I can find leads me to believe that it was all pullman. In 1954 this train lost it's twin diners, which were sold to the B&O for use on the Capitol Limited.

It is extremely hard to find information for this train. I can't even find the train numbers.

My guess for a consist would be:
Baggage Dorm
2x Budd 10-6 sleeper
PS 12 DB sleeper
Budd tavern lounge
Budd Twin Diners
2x Budd 22 Roomette sleeper
Possibly a PS 4-4-2
Budd 5 double-bedroom buffet lounge observation

If anybody wants me to try to find a consist for a specific train, just ask me and I will see what I can do.