Preventing "forced" Windows 10 upgrade

More secure yes, a lot more secure unfortunately not, as I said there is little to pick between them and why there is a multi-million dollar business in computer security, and growing. Peter
 
OS having better security means very little if the computer user doesn't use the thing sensibly.
If you want to check how secure your system is from hackers use Steve Gibsons ShieldsUp https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
Of course if you pass everything on ShieldsUp it still doesn't mean you can't get infected via a web page or email.
 
More secure yes, a lot more secure unfortunately not, as I said there is little to pick between them and why there is a multi-million dollar business in computer security, and growing. Peter

and your credentials for saying there is little to choose between them are?

Security is roughly 50% process ie doing the right thing, and 40% operating system architecture and updates and around 10% malware detection. Apple believes in prayer, one of its libraries got infected in China so that infected a few thousand programs.

Corporations, governments depend on security and that's where Microsoft makes it's money. They were slack at one time but tightened up a great deal later when we beat up on them and these days are thought in the security field to be one of the most secure operating systems available. I worked at Stats Canada in infrastructure for many years and keeping the data safe was a way of life and studied in depth. The fun stuff was working in the computer technical area at Aston University, computer science students used to get very creative and so did we. You'd be suprised the number of times a student's work would be lost by an operator mistake, could we help them recreate it?

These days a system is either secure or its infected, the average time a probing attack takes place on an unprotected machine when placed on the internet is under twenty minutes.

Cheerio John
 
I passed all the tests on Shields Up with Windows 7. All I use is the Windows Firewall and Microsoft Security Essentials along with SpyBot S & D. Never had anything more serious than tracking cookies. I don't engage in any particularly risky behaviors though. I've never download from a torrent site or any of those peer to peer things and I am very careful about email attachments. I'll sleep well with my Windows 7 machine until I replace it.

Even if some bad guys did break into my machine, they wouldn't find much. I don't bank online nor conduct any serious financial business on my computer.
 
For those of you still working with Windows 7 and Windows 8.1, here's a report about some recently announced intentions by Microsoft to distribute further updates and (non-security) fixes for those OSes as monthly "Roll-Up Bundles"...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/17/microsoft_windows_7_and_81_fixes_now_rollup_bundles/

As stated there, many enterprises are holding off on corporate-wide updates to Windows 10 for now, so this will be most welcome news for their systems admins.
 
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Very threatening, yes?

Monthly "non security updates"

Does this leave you out in the great wild yonder to manage your security all by your very own self?
 
Naah! They are still going to be delivering the usual monthly "patch Tuesday" security updates (as well) for those operating systems, which won't be out of support for several years yet.
 
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You wont get the Win10 stuff at all, pressing keys is not relevant unless you intend editing the registry or Local security policy.
 
I meant inadvertantly selecting updates that included Win10, my eyesight is very poor now and it is easy for me to make a mistake.

Ken
 
I meant inadvertantly selecting updates that included Win10, my eyesight is very poor now and it is easy for me to make a mistake.

Ken

You won't or shouldn't get any updates concerning Win10, the whole point of these utilities is to stop the stuff being downloaded in the background. They do not appear in windows update they sneak in when you are not looking and are in a hidden folder, think Windows install Disk being downloaded in sections rather than as an iso in one go.
 
Thanks very much for a good description I have been very concerned that I might select to update Win10 by mistake or unknowingly.

Ken
 
Here's some more information about Microsoft's new "Convenience Roll-Ups" for future updates to Windows 7 and 8 machines.
Bottom line is these will help you to keep your machine up to date without them thrusting Windows 10 down your throat.

http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Microsoft-Releases-Windows-7-Convenience-Roll

The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 for eligible Windows 7 and 8.1 users expires at the end of July in any event. After that you'll need to pay.
For most people, the best way to go to the latest version of Windows is to have it installed as the primary OS on an entirely new laptop or system build.

BTW; Here's CNET's take on how to prevent an unwanted upgrade to Windows 10:

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/stop-windows-10-from-automatically-updating-your-pc/
 
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I've forgotten the exact reference and it is out of date by six years since I've been retired that long but it came up at one of the presentations made to the computer security section of my department in Canadian Federal government. I suspect its less than that by now.

If you have a decent router with firewall a probe won't reach the machine, and a probe does not mean you've been infected, its just exploring. I think Micrososft when they were first trying out Windows 10 in beta connected one to the net to see what would happen the first probe was within a few minutes.

Cheerio John
 
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