One More Layer Question

stouthm

Get over it
Well, actually several. What I like to do is go into a session, make changes to the tracks, industries, trees, and place consists at various points on the route. When I'm finished, what steps should I follow to keep that session? I choose: Save, Save Route, Overwrite existig route and, Overwrite existing session.

Last question I hope. After making changes to an industry, M.I.N. or LARS do I save as a route-layer or session-layer.

I messed up somewhere and when I chose Edit Route everything was missing except the terrain and textures but the session was OK. How do I get all my items back into the route?
 
Make sure that when you enter Surveyor by clicking the big Routes button/icon on the main menu screen, you then ...
  1. select the Route you want to edit
  2. click the Session button (bottom right hand corner)
  3. select the Session you to edit
  4. click the Edit Session button on the left
If you click Edit Route after selecting the Route to edit (step 1 above) then you will lose all your session data - a common mistake people are making.

When you save make sure that you select the following options ...

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  • overwrite existing route, and
  • overwrite existing session
For your last question, you don't specifically "save route layers or session layers". All the layers present in a session (route layers and session layers) are saved when the session is saved (see steps above). If you have selected Edit Route than that route will also have route layers and session layers but the contents of the session layers will not be the same as the session layers in a saved session. This is where a lot of people are getting confused and frustrated.

My advice is when you create a new route (the Create Route button) then save the route and session (using default names if necessary). From that point on always edit the Session, not the Route. Edit: PS - you can still edit the session layers and the route layers inside the session but make sure that you save both the session and the route when finished.

Peter Ware
 
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Hi all:wave:
I don’t know if I am right, as I have never had the problem that you mention in your last question; but would not merging the route and session layers to the route layer, put everything onto the route layer? As I say, I am not sure because I have never tried.
 
Hi all:wave:
I don’t know if I am right, as I have never had the problem that you mention in your last question; but would not merging the route and session layers to the route layer, put everything onto the route layer? As I say, I am not sure because I have never tried.

yes, i no... it would do that,,, but still you set up you indes & set up your train in session
 
My answer was for stouthm; so where did you come from ct_krogen with such an aggressive response? The guy has made an error and wants to know how to put it right. He does not want to see some plank attack someone who is trying to help him get attacked for no reason.

belkenn:p
 
Belkenn, maybe I'm from a different planet (certainly from a different part of this planet) but I didn't see the response from ct_krogen as an attack.
 
Yes it is pware because people like that give nothing to the thread, they hinder rather than help. What did he say that was helpful to the question asked? Please tell me that.

The guy who started this thread was asking for help because he had made a mistake, he did not need someone to say to him “well I know how, but I am not telling you”

Belkenn
 
What did he say that was helpful to the question asked? Please tell me that.

My reading of his response was ...

He agreed with your suggestion that merging the route and session layers would probably work and that this would still allow you to set up your industries and trains in a session. Your original response, after all, was speculative (QUOTE "I don't know if I am right") and therefore a speculative response was perfectly in order.

... he did not need someone to say to him “well I know how, but I am not telling you”

I do not see that quote anywhere in his brief response nor do I read that into its meaning.

Cheers

Peter Ware
 
would not merging the route and session layers to the route layer

If you do this you lose all your session details. All your settings are maintained in the Session layer.

Read the post by PWare again, I can tell you from my recent experience, that is exactly what you should do. ALL your settings are maintained in the session layer.

Peter
 
Thanks to every one for replying. Used everyone's suggestions and they all worked. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was not offended. I've been with Trainz a long time and have always gotten help on this forum when I needed it so please don't stop helping others because of a minor misunderstanding. Thanks again.
 
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