NYC subway Route

Tracks, yards, and answers.

acelejalde, How come you use different kinds of tracks on your route? Even the third rails are different. How did you create the yards and lay the tracks correctly? I don't see anything on the ground that help you lay tracks correctly.

I use different types of tracks depending upon their job on the route and for diversity. For example, the surface tracks that are on the Dyre line are made by ExpressLine3Train, part of the NYCTA super-pack. They don't do well with too many bends, so they're perfect for the Dyre line which only has two major interlockings (south of Morris Park and south of Dyre Terminal). The MCQ tracks are the ones I used after E 180 St and Unionport Yard; because there are so many tracks in the area, as well as lots of switches and some double-slips, the MCQ tracks work better; the third rails are different because the MCQ tracks are meant for a U-Bahn type layout. I did notice the darker third rails in my EL stations, that don't mesh well with the normal lighter colored ones on BStyle's EL tracks--I simply forgot to swap out the textures while modelling, so it's an easy fix!

About the yards: I have Peter Dougherty's excellent guide "Tracks of the New York Subway", which is similar to the published maps on www.nycsubway.org, except up to date (as of 2011, though I have the 2010 version), and the full yard layouts are included. This is an excellent resource for me because I can cross-reference the current track configurations with those on my signal diagrams (lots of switches deleted or added between 1976 and today). Since Unionport wasn't in existence until 1997, I had to rely solely on Peter's book. I definitely recommend it because it has a wealth of subway information besides just maps and signal info. I "eye-balled" the maps in Peter's book and tried to get it as accurate as possible in Trainz; obviously that's impossible, but I tried my very best. I started at the bumpers and measured 520 feet downward (a little more than a full 10-car IRT train), and then connected the switches as they are in the book. I left a little wiggle-room between the switches and the actual start of the storage tracks because Trainz likes to stop AI trains a good 10 feet or so prior to a trackmark.

I know it sounds like a lot of work, but once you are building for an hour or two, it gets easier.

Any other questions, ask away!

-A :wave:

P.S. Late afternoon #5 line update: all signals, signs, speed limits have been laid for Dyre, E 180 & WPR lines; also, all junctions have been named according to the signal diagrams.
 
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Yes i have one,... As far as scenery goes do you want my El Entrances for your stations? If so just give me a list of all the El stations on your route and ill make them for you.
 
acelejalde, How well does your computer run your NYCTA system if you model the yards as shown in Peter Dougherty's excellent guide "Tracks of the New York Subway"? I'm worried that the biggest yards like Coney Island Yard will turn the fastest computer into the slowest computer.
 
My computer runs TS2010 fairly well--I do have a low-end video card (low end when compared to others), a NVIDIA GeForce 210. Usually my only problems are minor stuttering while in driver mode. With anything else, it's the content that you use that will determine how fast/slow your computer is. Your Manhattan/Williamsburg bridges work because both the structures and tracks are low-poly, yet visually appealing. If/when a developer cranks up the poly count, that's when problems happen. EL3T, BStyles, and I have always been mindful of those who do not have the fastest computers/cards on the market, and try to make our stuff as low-poly as possible without sacrificing too much on the visual end.

That's another reason why I use different tracks for the yards--they're low poly, yet visually appealing enough to get the job done.

I'm still searching for a legitimate read-through tutorial on the new stitched-mesh track used for TS09 and up, as I might consider converting my tracks to that if it proves to be more efficient.

-A :wave:
 
East 180 St & 239 St Yards

All three yards of the (5) line are finished! Below are photos from the two toughest yards I'd ever done!

East 180 St Yard:
E180fromY1.jpg

E180-Unionport.jpg

E180Shops.jpg

E180ShopEntrance.jpg

E180Overhead2.jpg

E180North.jpg


239 St Yard:
241St-WhitePlainsRd.jpg

239StLeads.jpg

239StYard.jpg



Going to be taking a few days' break to relax before resuming.

Enjoy!

-A :wave:
 
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149 St/Grand Concourse

So, guys....obviously I couldn't stay away from building this route! It's actually been extremely fun tackling this challenging route. I used rulers and traced the entire winding route from E 180 St down Southern Blvd & Westchester Av to 149 St/Grand Concourse. Only stations are laid between 3 Av/149 & E 180. I completed the trackwork from 3 Av to Grand Concourse and completed both levels, and the connection between the (2)(5) and the (4). And yes---the (2) does end in bumper blocks one full train length before the switches. Here are some pics to appease you guys this Sunday!

Lower Level "storage" tracks. Redbird (2) and R62-A "Special" train, which is actually a re-routed (3) to E 180 St.
149St-GCLL1.jpg

149St-GCLL2.jpg


Upper Level connections and R62-A (4) trains.
149St-GCUL1.jpg

149St-GCUL2.jpg


Enjoy!
-A :wave:
 
Open Doors

Why yes, doors can be opened at stations that do not have invisible stations as evidenced below:

OpenDoors.jpg


This is at Dyre Avenue.

Thanks to my buddy Angel for showing me this (and the subsequent rule)--I am still trying to solve the problem of no passengers at my stations (as they're splines)....but hey---(!)--now you can open doors at them, so it's a small victory for me, but a victory nonetheless!

Here's the rule, and once installed, you'll had to add it to the list of driver commands while editing your session rules. There's no wait time for it, as I found out the dangerous anti-MTA way when I had a communication issue with my C/R who opened the doors while in a tunnel. Suffice it to say, he's toast.
Passenger Door Control

Enjoy!

-A :wavel:
 
Hello to all the NYCTA lovers out there and rail fans and all that jazz

Not building anything else, I rather work like a team for something I love doing and not part in and out of it building and the team is not seem to be fully on bored lately. If you want to build something, get the program "S ketchup" or "Gmax" or "3Dsmax" to build your mods for trainz. For textures programs you can use anything that you can make layers and effects with and have good tools.

You have alexander55 , Bstyle , Jeffmorhis (if I got the name right) and others building new stuff so they are the top guys there is. So yea, you ask them. I'm not building anything else for now on. If I feel up to building a mod for train I will make it and put it in DLS. For now, nothing is being made.

Oh.. The NYCTA tunnels you will have to ask Bstyle and alexander55 for them. The R42 is not going to be released anytime soon or made. Sorry guys :/....

I will end it off with pics.

2-3-4-5 line some will show the last stop of Utica Ave, show a shot with the train and station in the tunnel that is Bergen st. station.

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Next you have DeKalb Ave and one show the President av tunnel going to Franklin Ave.

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If you want to make great detail to your NYCTA routes make sure you push your self when making it and have fun. Nothing is a job making things. You have fun doing it.
 
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i'm back

Nice work green egg's love the way the yards look like!!!!



Special Note


For those that have been wondering i will release the freelanced version of Nereid yard i showed a few post back. i just have to add the 3rd rail and make sure all the curves are not to sharp or wide. Also since it is a freelanced version you can use it for any type of division A division 50 foot cars (1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)(7)

B Division 60/75 Foot Cars (A)(B)(C)(D)(E)(F)(G)(J)(L)(M)(N)(Q))(R)(S)(V)(W)(Z)


i will upload the yards to a file hosting site within the coming days
 
HEY A,

Been away from the pc world for a very long time, but I went back and saw your awesome work ... excellent contruction on those pieces!!!

:D :D :D :D :D

Ishie
 
(5) Updates!!

Hey All---

The trackwork for the (5) has been coming along slowly due to the holidays but I have finally made it down to Brooklyn Bridge, and the City Hall Loop. Tomorrow I shall break ground into Brooklyn.

Also, major announcement, I'm upgrading the (5) to include the (4) and (6) as well. In the Bronx, only the Jerome & Pelham branches need to be finished, and the branch to Utica Av.

Enjoy these few pictures!

(4)(5) express tracks descend north of 42 St
Exp51St.jpg


14 St-Union Square looking north
UnionSq.jpg


Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall Loop
BB-1.jpg

Loop1.jpg

Loop2.jpg

Loop3.jpg


And yeah, that is a custom station I built just for City Hall.

And lastly, progress strip map:
5Progress12-19.jpg


Happy Holidays,
-A :wave:
 
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hi
i'm installing nycta subway but its missing a lot of kuid's

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can somebody help me here, can't find it in download station also not on this thread. media fire broken links
thx,
evi
 
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Thanks for bringing it to us but I really think this is the wrong forum to post a question like that. Try PMing the author.
Eric :)
 
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