Norris 4-2-0 - The Grandpa of Steam Locomotives

[Sampug394]

I've noticed that Nearly Nobody ever has Mentioned the Creation of one of the Better Known/Highly Historical Norris 4-2-0 Steam Locomotive. This Engine was Literally a For-Runner to all AMERICAN Steam Locomotives, Effectively growing into the 4-4-0 American Types we know so well:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/England_loco_Birmingham_&_Glos'ter_Railway.jpg

Hopefully Better Pictures can be Provided of this Historical Locomotive...

 

[teddytoot]

....This Engine was Literally a For-Runner to all Steam Locomotives....

Richard Trevithick would turn in his grave at that comment. :'(

 

[Sampug394]

Richard Trevithick would turn in his grave at that comment. :'(

...Of American Steam Locomotives at that:

 

[springtransit]

Richard Trevithick would turn in his grave at that comment. :'(

Robert Stephenson would, too!

 

[Sampug394]

Robert Stephenson would, too!

Notice how it now Says 'AMERICAN' Steam Locomotives.

Please take a look at the Neat Photograph above that Demonstrates it's Evolution into the 4-4-0.

 

[springtransit]

The Yonah, here, though a 4-4-0, further demonstrates the evolution:

Here are some shots of the Norris that was featured in Sid Meier's Railroads!:

 

[Sampug394]

Nooooooooooo

Sid Meier's Railroads is such a Poorly Programmed Game. It should have Stayed in Production for another Month, and it'd have Half the bugs it does now...

 

[magickmaker]

As you can see in these links, the design isn't exactly American.
http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry...ed rover' camden & woodbury railroad 1833.jpg

Though, if you wanted to go really back, you should start with this locomotive type:

http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry...9 Raleigh & Gaston Railroad 'Gaston' 1836.jpg

Or

http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry...d 'cincinnatti' 'allen' & 'kentucky' 1835.jpg

or even

http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry...3 'Paris' paris & st germain railway 1835.jpg

And, the grandfather of them all: The PLANET class.

http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry... contractor for london & birmingham 1838.jpg

 

[UP5521]

Man,that is rare locomotive to find running today but they do keep that locomotive in good condition!

 

[springtransit]

Sid Meier's Railroads is such a Poorly Programmed Game. It should have Stayed in Production for another Month, and it'd have Half the bugs it does now...

Poorly programmed? Yeah right!:hehe: Sure it has some bugs and leaves a little to be desired, but overall, it's a great game!

 

[Sampug394]

Poorly programmed? Yeah right!:hehe: Sure it has some bugs and leaves a little to be desired, but overall, it's a great game!

The Problem Lies in the Lack of Tenders, Lack of good Terrain Generation, Lack of Bigger Maps, And Absolutely Retarded AI.

 

[springtransit]

Well, we'll talk about that elsewhere. An interesting engine, the German Beuth engine, has quite an American influence! They seemed to take the Norris design, and move one of the pilot wheels back behind the firebox!

Take a look:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Beuth_1.jpg

 

[Sampug394]

Well, we'll talk about that elsewhere. An interesting engine, the German Beuth engine, has quite an American influence! They seemed to take the Norris design, and move one of the pilot wheels back behind the firebox!

Take a look:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Beuth_1.jpg

Indeed! They are Especially Peculiar with the Extra Rod hanging onto the Main rod.

Though, They're more of an Ugly Outgrowth of Der Adler:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Adler_May_2008_Fuerth_3.jpg

 

[springtransit]

That, itself was a spinoff of the British Patentee!

 

[jadebullet]

How about the first locomotive, of the first steam railroad in America, oh, and no, it isn't B&O.

 

[ZapperJet]

The locomotive in jadebullet's looks to be formed from the idea of Watt's Beam Engine. I believe this design may be before any of the others in this thread because of this. Watt's Beam Engine was an atmospheric engine. Steam was injected into the cylinder (forcing the piston upward), then water was injected to cool and condense the steam creating a vacuum. Obviously it's not done like this anymore, as pistons are double acting on steam engines.

Cheers,
John

 

[simulatortrain]

I'm interested in these locos, because the Cumberland Valley had 10 of them, and one lasted into the 1880s in work train service. It had an enclosed cab and a few other changes.

 

[UP5521]

When did they use of bells on these locomotives? because all they had when they were built was a whistle.

 

[springtransit]

I think it was in the 1840's...

 

[UP5521]

thanks and now I see why they needed the bells as well as whistles were a safety requirement not only during the day but at night as well because during that time it was dangerous running at night,and don't forget the headlight and cow-catcher as well!