Norfolk Southern says "NO!" to merge offer from CP

[JCitron]

Never the less ... It was still a CP train, with CP locomotives, and originated via CP rails, and was parked on MM&A trackage

The train may have originated on CPR, but the locos were run by MM&A crew.

It's hard typing with my cat sitting on my arms!

 

[ATSF854]

Never the less ... It was still a CP train, with CP locomotives, and originated via CP rails, and was parked on MM&A trackage

certainly not CP locomotives. Did you even read 2 sentences from the full report?

 

[JCitron]

certainly not CP locomotives. Did you even read 2 sentences from the full report?

That's right and they were in pretty bad condition too. Just think Pan Am wanted to take them over, and that wouldn't have made a difference since PAR runs equipment that not much different.

 

[jacksonbarno]

It's surprising that MM&A/BAR held out as long as they did. There's not much out there anymore to warrant regular traffic, so it makes sense that they didn't have funds to purchase shiny new equipment and whatnot. It's a shame that most heavy industry got shooed out of the northeast.

 

[cascaderailroad]

Doubtful was it that they were actual MM&A/BAR locomotives ... They were CP loco's that were parked at the top of the hill, and the engineer went to a motel for 8 hour rest

 

[JCitron]

It's surprising that MM&A/BAR held out as long as they did. There's not much out there anymore to warrant regular traffic, so it makes sense that they didn't have funds to purchase shiny new equipment and whatnot. It's a shame that most heavy industry got shooed out of the northeast.

Yup. They died a very long death, not from industry so much leaving up there, but due to the old Penn Central killing their lucrative potato traffic. When the PC messed up during the 1970s, it killed the BAR and they never recovered. Outside of potatoes, it was paper and lumber. This industry, though has changed dramatically as the lumber industry found it cheaper to import the Canadian lumber products, thanks to NAFTA, instead of stuff from Maine. NAFTA killed a lot of industry up in the northeast in general.

@Cascade.... The BAR/MM&A probably had some CPR locomotives in tow due to signaling requirements. This isn't uncommon when a company runs over a foreign road. The MM&A's GP40-2s or SD40s probably don't have the cab signal equipment needed for the CPR line.

John

 

[ATSF854]

Doubtful was it that they were actual MM&A/BAR locomotives ... They were CP loco's that were parked at the top of the hill, and the engineer went to a motel for 8 hour rest

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/rail/2013/r13d0054/Images/r13d0054-photo-02.jpg

2 leasers, and the rest MM&A locomotives. A major cause of the accident #5017 is an MM&A locomotive

You don't have to guess on anything. All of the major details are found here