Nice long Conrail route

[CNSD40MRT]

Is there a nice long route for Conrail? Or even PRR/NYC/PC?

 

[RRSignal]

How long? I have an ex-RDG line in the works that's about 30 miles or so. User jrfolco did Cumberland-Connellsville and even to Harpers Ferry, which I think was a CR route. Try looking over at Trainzproroutes as well. - > http://www.trainzproroutes.org

 

[cascaderailroad]

I have been trying to get several people involved in making 6 separate DEM's

Phila to Reading
Phila to Harrisburg
Harrisburg to Altoona
Altoona to Johnstown
Johnstown to Pitcairn
Pitcairn to Conway

But no one seems interested in joining forces

All I know is the Reading Lines on USLW was the first route I found when starting Trainz, and Neuman's NEC on the DLS

 

[Infraredbob]

no. Trainz never has prebuilt/builtin or routes on the DLS ever. you can only build your own and that's it.


I'm kidding, of course. Here's a video of what you might be looking for:

 

[Infraredbob]

I have been trying to get several people involved in making 6 separate DEM's

Phila to Reading
Phila to Harrisburg
Harrisburg to Altoona
Altoona to Johnstown
Johnstown to Pitcairn
Pitcairn to Conway

But no one seems interested in joining forces

How serious are you about this, cascaderailroad?

 

[RRSignal]

I have been trying to get several people involved in making 6 separate DEM's

Phila to Reading
Phila to Harrisburg

If you want the DEMs, that would be easy enough, I already have some of this. But building the route itself is the hard part, as you already know. Let me know.

 

[cascaderailroad]

I am very very serious ... we need those DEM's subdivided into those terminals, for a nice run ... I have from Mount Union to Johnstown that I am willing to merge to another DEM, or donate the route.

Several DEM routes from:

Phila to Harrisburg/Enola
Harrisburg/Enola to Altoona
Altoona to Johnstown
Johnstown to Conway

Would be ideal

There is a Checkrail DEM from Reading/Highspire to Enola/Marysville

 

[KenRuof]

I am very very serious ... we need those DEM's subdivided into those terminals, for a nice run ... I have from Mount Union to Johnstown that I am willing to merge to another DEM, or donate the route.

Several DEM routes from:

Phila to Harrisburg/Enola
Harrisburg/Enola to Altoona
Altoona to Johnstown
Johnstown to Conway

Would be ideal

There is a Checkrail DEM from Reading/Highspire to Enola/Marysville

Now that the USGS is back I may be able to make something, I have data from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh

 

[CNSD40MRT]

no. Trainz never has prebuilt/builtin or routes on the DLS ever. you can only build your own and that's it.


I'm kidding, of course. Here's a video of what you might be looking for:

Well, looks like, I have some building to do.

 

[JCitron]

There is also the Reading Blue Mountain and Northern by Jointed Rail. This was once a Conrail, formerly Reading, CNJ, and Lehigh Valley route.

John

 

[KingConrail76]

I have been trying to get several people involved in making 6 separate DEM's

Phila to Reading
Phila to Harrisburg
Harrisburg to Altoona
Altoona to Johnstown
Johnstown to Pitcairn
Pitcairn to Conway

But no one seems interested in joining forces

All I know is the Reading Lines on USLW was the first route I found when starting Trainz, and Neuman's NEC on the DLS

I have a route I've been working on for quite some time (I work slow, not much beyond graded track) from just west of Philidelphia to just west of Harrisburg, and From just south of Perryville, Maryland to just north of Manheim, PA., created with TranzDEM for TS2010...It's big...but I'd consider donating it to a serious individual interested in Prototype track work in either the PRR transition era (1940's-1960's), or the modern NS/Amtrak era (2000-current)...too many variables to shoot for 1930's PRR all the way up to 2000's NS/Amtrak...too many changes. (I was trying to focus on Coatesville PA to Lancaster PA, but it just kept growing)

I'd have to look at my track charts again to be sure, but I'm pretty certain it includes the; (Maps for each, not all have track layed)
-Keystone Corridor main
-Atglen & Susquehanna branch
-Philidelphia & Thorndale branch
-Trenton branch (west end)
-Cumberland Valley branch
-Columbia branch (Lancaster to Royalton)
-Rockville branch
-Quarryville branch
-New Holland branch
-Pomeroy branch
-Coatesville branch
-West Chester branch (north end)
and the Port Road (Enola to Perryville).

I have the Data to do from (E to W) the Atlantic 10 miles out to sea, to Central/Western Pennsylvania and (N to S) Scranton, PA to Baltimore, MD

 

[cascaderailroad]

How are the framerates, and load on your PC, from such a large DEM route ?

I have often wondered how many PC's could push the envelope of Trainz, with a DEM from Phila all the way to Conway ?

How big is too big ?

I need your advice

 

[cascaderailroad]

I am very serious about making either a mega route, or a 5 part sectional DEM route, from Phila/Pavonia to Pittsburgh/Conway.

You mentioned about possibly donating your DEM to a serious routemaker ?

I feel the same about my DEM ... and I am ready to donate mine this year, before Christmas, to all (I just need to get the trackwork more respectable so people can run it), then I am giving it away for free, to anyone.

Presently it goes all the way from Mount Union to Johnstown (I may be merging on the DEM from Harrisburg to Mount Union, as soon as I find some generous DEM maker to make that area, so I can merge DEM's).

How much load would a mega route put on Trainz, and before it possiby freeze's up low end PC users laptops ?

How big is too big ?

I need your advice

 

[JCitron]

I am very serious about making either a mega route, or a 5 part sectional DEM route, from Phila/Pavonia to Pittsburgh/Conway.

You mentioned about possibly donating your DEM to a serious routemaker ?

I feel the same about my DEM ... and I am ready to donate mine this year, before Christmas, to all (I just need to get the trackwork more respectable so people can run it), then I am giving it away for free, to anyone.

Presently it goes all the way from Mount Union to Johnstown (I may be merging on the DEM from Harrisburg to Mount Union, as soon as I find some generous DEM maker to make that area, so I can merge DEM's).

How much load would a mega route put on Trainz, and before it possiby freeze's up low end PC users laptops ?

How big is too big ?

I need your advice

With imported textured DEM files that large, Trainz will crash if zoomed way out which is something I've run into a couple of times now. It's too much data to process graphically and the program dumps its self.

The other problem too is a route that large is really difficult to work on. It's not that it can't be done, but at the sacrifice of quality just to complete the route, you end up with a mediocre product in the end. The problem too is keeping up the enthusiasm for the project that big. There's nothing like scenicking a gazillion baseboards. After awhile the same process becomes mundane, boring, and awfully tiring. If anyone does want to do something like this, I definitely recommend many breaks from the project. Stepping away and frequently keeps the mind's eye fresh and the enthusiasm up.

The other issue too is once the route is completed, the sessions become difficult to create, and when running the trains themselves, the AI will be difficult to monitor which is something I've run into before on my own big route. For some reason the AI become like spoiled children and will start getting into trouble on these big routes. They'll decide to randomly wander down a branch line and get stuck, or decide that track direction markers don't matter anymore and run through them. Once the AI get stuck, the performance falls through the floor and causes wicked stuttering most likely because they are constantly polling and searching for their correct route. It's not just Trainz that has this issue. I've seen it in other path-based simulators including the old Operation Flashpoint where I had only one soldier get lost and get stuck in a corner somewhere. The program came to a complete halt and I ended up quitting because I couldn't move my mouse. I've never had freezes this bad in Trainz, but I've had awful slow downs and slide show stuttering for no other reason other than stuck AI. Once I unknotted the drivers, everything came to life again and I was able to do my own driving.

John

 

[cascaderailroad]

So you would recommend that a route should be kept under @ 150 miles long, and that length of route would be perfect for other peoples PC's that are not high end ?

 

[KingConrail76]

Cascade, PM sent.

I don't know a lot about Portals, or how to set them up, but I think a chain of Routes, Yard to Yard, (or Station to Station for Passengers) with portals to convey intact trains would be a good compromise.
-Another option is to have the segments with a central Yard or Station, and then a Portal on the Main Line, half way between the central yard and the central yard of the next segment. Depends on if your focus is Driving or Switching/Dispatching.

I've had some random crashes, in surveyor, when working on what I have, and it is pretty bare. Frame rates were always good, but If I tried to pan too fast from a few specific areas, it would CTD. Never able to duplicate intentionally.