Next dumb question - World Origin?

[sniper297]

Did that when I created the route, necessary to make cars drive on the right side of the street.

This is in the environment menu, clicking the Add/move world origin button must open up a menu on someone else's computer, cuz it don't do diddly on mine.

I realize it's winter in Australia right now, but it's midsummer here, at 6PM the sun should still be shining.

Do I have to reset the calendar to January to get summer sunshine in my sessions, or is there a way to actually move this abortion into the northern hemisphere?

 

[clam1952]

Its a small round thing and you have to place it on the route by clicking, same as you would say a tree, otherwise nothing happens.

It's for setting the latitude and longitude for a specific point.

 

[martinvk]

Remember that Trainz simulates the whole world and not just one country so you have to tell it where your particular map is located on the globe for it to know what season it is and where the sun is at any moment. If you click on the little clock in the Environment window shown in your message image, you will see the time that is set in Surveyor. Driver has its own start time that you can set in the Driver Start Options.

 

[sniper297]

The problem is I'm not getting anything when I click on it, trying to drag it from the little window onto the terrain does nothing either. From the manual;

"You can also change the hemisphere that your route is located in by selecting the add/move world origin button and clicking on the map to place it. Once placed you can L-Click edit world origin and change the exact location in the world."

Clicking on the map don't do squat here, nothing appears. In the TS12 Anniversary Edition printed manual they talk about this Trig Station, I can place one of those but all you can do when you click with the question mark is give it a name, no latitude longitude.

 

[martinvk]

Open the Environment window, select the middle tab (with the little globe) and click on the Add / Move World Origin button to activate it. Then click in your map the place where you want it to appear. If later you don't know where you put it, click the middle button to find it. If you click the Right button, you can Edit the properties of the World Origin, its Lat (N|S), Long (E|W) and Altitude.

 

[sniper297]

Oh for crying out loud.

It's saved as part of the ROUTE, but to get it to show up you have to edit a SESSION, then save the ROUTE.

There it is, but the only way to get it to actually show up is editing a session.

 

[baz66]

Weel, there you go!!!! I seem to be following you around this forum. Hope you don't think I'm stalking.
baz

 

[sniper297]

How high is "up"?

Well, while I was coordinating my coordinates I figured I might as well toss in elevation, Chicago averages about 630 feet MSL, divide by 3.3 to get heathen furriner metric numbers comes out to about 190 meters plus a Belgian waffle with two Scottish groats change. More or less. Dunno what effect that has if that's set before starting the route, but changing it on a half built route is apparently not a good idea.

Get height gets the height MSL, instead of zero now it's 190. Okay, use height, 190 above what is already there. That don't work for leveling terrain under assorted buildings, so let's see if we can change the bird bath to reset to zero.

Cripes, the little culprit skipped town. Dunno where it went, so try placing another one;

And that works, now zero is zero again.

All this seems to me to be a lot more confusing than it needs to be, if the get height tool uses MSL elevation why don't the use height tool do the same? Why do you have to place the birdbath in a session, does someone need to move the route from Halifax to Hong Kong between sessions? If they do it won't work, the numbers you set in the session are stored in the route, you have to choose either Halifax or Hong Kong anyway, so why not put the birdbath in the route layer to begin with?

 

[nfitzsimmons]

Some mysteries are best left unexplored.

 

[sniper297]

That's probably why the birdbath disappeared, asked too many questions and got stuffed in a hole with a couple sacks of QuickLime over him.