NewbieQ: Am I getting punked by TS19?

[ustamills]

So, I'm doing this session and an instruction says to stop at Pine Hills Junction. First, it's not clear whether it means JCT0 or JCT1. I guess the 2nd one, and I think I'm right.

When I get there and stop, I get an instruction that says wait for the signal to change. I can tell after another train passes me that there's NO ONE on the track ahead of me, anywhere. But the signal never changes. 45 minutes later the signal still hasn't changed.

Am I just a newbie getting punked? Or is this just a quirk you occasionally see? Or is this a game where you are normally told to halt and do nothing for 45 minutes?

 

[1611mac]

What Route and what session? There seems to be a good number of TANE sessions that don't work right in '19. I've also seen '19 sessions that don't work properly in '19. I can only assume that few people run sessions as there is not much complaining and no one seems concerned about it.

 

[ustamills]

Legacy of the Burlington Northern: General Freight (I think this was my 3rd instruction in that session).

I guess I assumed that if I could load it, then the game checked it out as valid for TS19. Bad assumption?

 

[JCitron]

I only ran the session once or twice when I first got the route. Since I got the Jointed Rail version, I modified it heavily and merged it into other things. Having said that, I don't recall there being a problem, at least in T:ANE. It could be as has been said there's an issue with the session in some way or perhaps unclear instructions, which I'm more inclined to believe.

I recommend creating a session of your own. You can do that easily, put down a train and drive the route as if you are qualifying yourself as a driver. What this will do is get you used to the lay of the land and where such things are like the Jct. 0 and Jct. 1. In general I always open up a session or route in Surveyor and explore how things are done and where things are so it gives me a way know the route at least a small bit.

In the future, please provide the name of the route and session that you are having trouble with. With the shear number of them either found on third-party websites, or downloaded from the Download Station (DLS), it's quite difficult for us to figure out exactly the route you are having a problem with. I'm not picking on you. Just saying it's like trying to find a speck of dirt among some pepper.

 

[1611mac]

It seems to be a common thing that signals provide problems, especially in Tane routes that are advertised as "compatible" with TRS19. I have learned to expect that in these sessions I will be going into the session rules and turning off "end game when red signal is run" (as some signals just never give green) and also I will be prone to set session turnout rules so that they can be switched by the user.

These routes are sold as "TRS-19" compatible, however, what that means practically in '19 is that they will load and run but with a lot of baby setting and changes to rules.

So my advice is to just not expect anything from Sessions. A lot of them are boring, few of them are challenging. As JCitron says above, make your own sessions. The Navigation icons and scoring are silly anyway, in my opinion. You can do your own philskene kind of thing where you just sit consists and power around and any operate from some simple hand written tasks. See Phils (philskene) support threads with text sessions in the Freeware section.

Sessions afford the opportunity to learn. It was due to non-working sessions that I learned the basics of session rules. As I said in my reply above, I can only guess that few people actually run the included game sessions as no one seems to care. See thread linked below as an example. It's a brand new Route/session that has a Route flaw and a Session flaw and the Mac version seems to be more flawed than the Windows version. But you see no others complaining about it in the forums and no response from N3V. I can only assume that people get the routes and them use and modify them as they wish, never using the original Route/Sessions.
https://forums.auran.com/trainz/sho...water-2-0-comments-issues-(beta-preview-pass)

 

[ustamills]

Thanks guys! So, I'm really surprised that making your own Sessions is so common. I had just never imagined that was a thing, except for 3rd party content providers.

That is cool idea; I've got something new to learn. Tx!

 

[1611mac]

Easiest way to learn for me was to go through some existing sessions step by step in session editor. Learn what is going on and then start making your own. Start simple. Depending on your likes and dislikes you can leave out scoring, navigation icons, etc.

 

[Forester1]

I don't suppose some junction further down the tack could have inadvertently got set the wrong way, causing that light to stay red? You might want to check the next junction or two just to make sure...