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bassist118
Suffering for his art.
:hehe: Honestly is that true, some people thought you transport prisoners around in those? I used to wonder how the US had George W Bush as a puppet er president, now I totally understand.
Andy
Andy
:hehe: Honestly is that true, some people thought you transport prisoners around in those? I used to wonder how the US had George W Bush as a puppet er president, now I totally understand.
Andy
No, its not true.
Some crazy conspiracy theorist saw a CN train in (iirc) Georgia, hauling auto-racks, parked up next to the storage yard of a company that makes plastic grave liners.
From there they extrapolated it to meaning that FEMA has trains that it's going to use to haul people to the death camps, where all the millions of undesirable americans will be buried in plastic coffins.
Sadly, conspiracy loons being what they are, they'll believe anything...
BLACKWATCH
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No, its not true.
From there they extrapolated it to meaning that FEMA has trains that it's going to use to haul people to the death camps, where all the millions of undesirable americans will be buried in plastic coffins.
Sadly, conspiracy loons being what they are, they'll believe anything...
Not a bad idea though, I'm sure the Indian Nations would back it. :hehe:
bassist118
Suffering for his art.
No, its not true.
Some crazy conspiracy theorist saw a CN train in (iirc) Georgia, hauling auto-racks, parked up next to the storage yard of a company that makes plastic grave liners.
From there they extrapolated it to meaning that FEMA has trains that it's going to use to haul people to the death camps, where all the millions of undesirable americans will be buried in plastic coffins.
Sadly, conspiracy loons being what they are, they'll believe anything...
2 + 2 = 43567.958 the equation of all conspiracy. Sorry if any Americans thought I sounded a little racist, I understand there are intelligent Americans it's just some people totally let the side down the Bible belt lets the US down where as Romford, Essex lets the UK down.
BLACKWATCH
Mechanical Engineer
Romford, Essex lets the human race down. 
It's depressing what some people will believe, on the barest minimum of evidence, just because it fits their preconceptions and paranoia... It's scary that so many of them (well it's a big country, so it might just be the law of averages), come from the most powerful nation on earth.
Mind you, few people believed the extent of the Nazi holocaust before Allied troops liberated the death camps...
Paul
p.s. I bet you wouldn't find many dumb enough to believe this is Romford...
Mind you, few people believed the extent of the Nazi holocaust before Allied troops liberated the death camps...
Paul
p.s. I bet you wouldn't find many dumb enough to believe this is Romford...
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I doubt America has any more crazies than the rest of the world, I've known many conspiracy nuts here in the UK, it's just that Americans have the 'cult of free speech' where they believe that the consistution grants them the right to be heard, no matter what their message is. So the message of craziness gets out more.
By contrast, the EU's 'right to expression', is much more tempered with clauses of 'except when your speech may cause harm to others'.
Lets take another example, Colleen Thomas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKx4MeBybkc (Warning: Youtube link, discussion on youtube can often be not suitable for children)
Her ranting could be construed as dangerous in many places - she urges people to use deadly force on anyone coming to their property unannounced, for example. In europe, her rants don't legally fall under the umbrella of 'freedom of expression' because of this. Yet to someone in the 'cult of free speech', she is insistant that her message has a right to be heard, that noone can stop her from saying what she does (never mind that the constitution, and thus the 1st amendment, only controls what the GOVERNMENT can regulate, not what a third party such as YouTube can regulate...)
Oh, and to bring this vaguely onto the topic of the post, she mentions the FEMA internment camps and the death trains.
American_Connections
AC MonkeyWrench Models
Hope for the best.
I hope ya'll are right! But I personally saw the over needed increase in militia back in 1979 when I came back from the Navy. Rich people think the are gods and can do anything they want. Don't know bout the UK, but best watch yer back side!
I hope ya'll are right! But I personally saw the over needed increase in militia back in 1979 when I came back from the Navy. Rich people think the are gods and can do anything they want. Don't know bout the UK, but best watch yer back side!
Of course the left can look to the likes of Joseph Stalin and Castro and oh yeah the nuts in Nth Korea as proof that the bible belt is crooked. The EU? Undemocratic unelected administrators telling the rest what to do? Of course you can't go without mentioning the latest pin up boy of the left-Victor Chavez of Venezuela. What a fine piece of work for freedom he is! Yeah the bible belt, maybe shove all them American religious people into the gas ovens to prove how democratic you all are! LOL.
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American_Connections
AC MonkeyWrench Models
Pin head where it belongs!
Just what in hell does the bible belt have to do with this! I think even your papa missed the point. We talkin the world dude!
Um, the Bible Belt doesn't worry me half as much as the intolerant poseurs in many of the large cities...
That said, who cares about what conspiracy theorists say? Even if the second car had benches for people, so what? We move troops too, and (unfortunately) they generally don't get the most luxurious accomodations.
Romford, Essex lets the human race down.
Hey, what have you all got against Romford? Lovely place...
Paul
@Bolivar - that is the most bizarre straw man argument I've heard in a long time. Did you post in the right thread? Or the right forum even?
@A_C - the world was a very different place in 1979. Sane people thought the Russians might invade.
@NikkiA - I take your point, but I'm not sure you're right. Either there are more conspiracy theorist nut-jobs, or the oxygen of publicity for such weird views goes a whole lot further in the USA. There certainly seem to be much more resistance in the USA to the idea of government than in other places. Areas of policy that are very much government business in the rest of the world, are regarded by enough Americans as 'none of the government's business' to enough Americans to have overturned the Democrats' Congress majority. I think that deep-seated mistrust of government probably leads to a greater preparedness to believe that the government is doing scary things behind everyone's back. Therefore, more conspiracy theories, and more folks prepared to believe them.
On another note - transplant this 'theory' to anywhere else in the Western Democratic world - it starts to look a bit silly doesn't it? Transplant it to North Korea - it all looks too credible...
Paul
@A_C - the world was a very different place in 1979. Sane people thought the Russians might invade.
@NikkiA - I take your point, but I'm not sure you're right. Either there are more conspiracy theorist nut-jobs, or the oxygen of publicity for such weird views goes a whole lot further in the USA. There certainly seem to be much more resistance in the USA to the idea of government than in other places. Areas of policy that are very much government business in the rest of the world, are regarded by enough Americans as 'none of the government's business' to enough Americans to have overturned the Democrats' Congress majority. I think that deep-seated mistrust of government probably leads to a greater preparedness to believe that the government is doing scary things behind everyone's back. Therefore, more conspiracy theories, and more folks prepared to believe them.
On another note - transplant this 'theory' to anywhere else in the Western Democratic world - it starts to look a bit silly doesn't it? Transplant it to North Korea - it all looks too credible...
Paul
Wow, as one who is takes joy in derailing conspiracy theories, I have to say that government has done a superb job all on it's own giving citizens reasons to distrust it. How people can have any confidence in it is a mystery.
I'm not sure anyone in the world has total confidence in their government - ours gets a lot wrong too, but there's a long way between feeling that the government hasn't done enough to help the economy / jobs / environment / world peace / fight terrorism, and believing that ones own government is conspiring to impose martial law / suspend democracy / institute medical 'death panels' / build a network of concentration camps.
What I don't understand is why there appears to be a greater degree of belief in the latter in the USA. In Australia, most people seem to believe that when the government is doing the wrong thing it is incompetent. In the UK it was more often assumed to be incompetence or personal greed/avarice.
Cock-up or conspiracy? I usually assume the former, unless I have evidence to the contrary...
Paul
What I don't understand is why there appears to be a greater degree of belief in the latter in the USA. In Australia, most people seem to believe that when the government is doing the wrong thing it is incompetent. In the UK it was more often assumed to be incompetence or personal greed/avarice.
Cock-up or conspiracy? I usually assume the former, unless I have evidence to the contrary...
Paul
Concentration camps and martial law are news to me. There have been some fairly recent incidents of our government killing its own citizens for trivial if not totally unprovoked reasons, depending on your point-of-view. However, aberrations aside, neither I nor anyone I know (or, in fact, even know of) are worried about martial law or concentration camps, but, rather, they immense corruption and incompetence that seems to be synonymous with government.
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