new essex/london layout

thank you tmz 06003 for the link to Freightliner crane

schoolhater i using my memory of use the route from 70's and 80's
and adding extra stuff for everyone more freights and passagers

wessex electric nutter i download but cant get it to show up but thank you anyway
 
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new pic to new lay out

Full on way to Purfleet by Walton Common Level crossing






full on way to Purfleet just passed East Tilbury





empty on way back passing though Tilbury Town


 
Screenshots Section

May I suggest you go have a look at some of the routes on the Screenshots section before you keep posting blank boards with just track on.
Maybe even download a couple of routes and have a look at other people's work to see what really can be done with this amazing program called Trainz.
For instance, the way trees and scrub are used, scrub especially around the base of trees alongside tracks and the different types of trees.
There is a wide variety of grasses on the DS, splines by Jankvis and FMA are great, for you to use and bring some life to your route.
What you can also do is use Google Earth to view the area you wish to create and often there are little blue markers that, when clicked on, will enlarge into a picture taken of the place and that gives you more detail to work with.
It is very tempting to go dashing along just laying track and nothing else, in fact it is necessary sometimes for short distances and Trainz does seem to make that very easy. But the real test for a creator is to bring each section to life, preferably so we can see your progress.
Keep working, you have an interesting route there, but please put more detail in before each screenshot is my advice.

I am not talking out of my hat - I don't wear one! Here are two shots to demonstrate my theory. These are on my route to Westbury and at a place called Froxfield. One is the actual place, the other my interpretation of it as best I can in Trainz. You won't get things exactly right but you can get fairly close.

Froxfield.jpg


Froxfield2.jpg


The grasses are splines as mentioned above. Pop to the DLS and get yourself some. Trees are JVC and Greenery.
Angela
 
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Google Earth

trainzessex,
I have had a look at this route in GE and to be honest even I would have to give creating it a lot of consideration, it is a massive project. I know it's only 35 miles, but it runs through practically all human habitation; I mean housing, and masses of it.
Also there is the Eurostar mainline running alongside for quite a way and that's elevated, apart from miles of elevated track on the rails you will have to lay. It is not a route for the faint-hearted and certainly not for a first one.

However, I have looked around Essex as I assume that is where you live and found a line running from Norwich to Yarmouth that looks quite good as a starter. It's mostly countryside so you will be able to use textures a lot and get plenty of practice in. At each end there are towns of course so plenty to keep you occupied working out which asset will suit the real one on the ground.
This is one trouble with creating an actual existing railway line, people can go see it so you need to get it somewhere near right and it is not easy.
But a country one with a town at the ends lends itself well, and you get to go to the seaside too!
Have a look at it on Google Earth. You can zoom in fairly close, but really close it gets fuzzy, so stay away just a bit. There are some of the blue patches along the line so you can see pictures taken by people and get an idea what the scenery is like.
I know you meant well but perhaps picked the wrong route to start in Trainz with, highly complicated and detailed ones take a long time and your enthusiasm can wane. I know, I have built long routes, they are on the DLS, but they take a couple of years to do. Even the Kent & East Sussex route I did took 18 months at least and that's all in the country.
So don't get disheartened. You have only just begun on the road into the wonderful world of Trainz and there is an awful lot to learn. Best thing to do is download a couple of routes and have a look at how people have gone about creating them, that will give you some good ideas.
Getting used to texturing isn't the easiest of things, but it is very necessary otherwise the ground looks awful, just flat and all one colour and that isn't how it is in nature.
Try not to use all built-in assets either, especially trees, there is plenty on the DLS to go get and that will improve the way your routes look.

There are some very nice shrub and tree sets on this site for you to get....
http://www.greenery.name/mstsg/mstsgd.htm?trainz,2

and loads of stuff on here....
http://www.trainz.hu/index.php?sel_lang=english

These are well known sites so most folk use assets from them.

Go on the DLS and search for textures, like sand and grasses, oh and scrub, they will bring the background out a lot and liven it up.

But practice. I did for 2 years before I felt good enough to post a shot here.

Angela
 
Wise choice

thank you angelah
i think i leave fenchurch street for a bit and have a look at Norwich to Yarmouth line

Hi,
A wise choice. The other route is highly built up in both housing and factories as well as heavily wooded in places, all things that will slow your Trainz frame rate drastically and therefore running a route.
There is another veiwing platform called the Planning Portal. It isn't the easiest of things to use but once you can it is very helpful. It isn't like GE because it shows the ground as a plan, not as it is all trees and things, so is handy for checking where buildings go and often what they are, and of course looking at track plans because you can click in very close indeed.
Link here :-
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/pl...eesWithoutVat=17.09,42.74&vatAmount=2.56,6.41

Also this one, Maps Live :-
http://www.bing.com/maps/

Go have a look and see what you think. If you need any help or advice either post, PM or mail me.

Angela

EDIT :- and here http://forum.uktrainz.co.uk/index.php
 
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nice thats gona turn out nicely

you could use uk bullhead track it looks rearlistic not sure if it works in trs04 since i use trs06

keep up the good work:cool:


p.s im not sure if it will work on trs 04 but with the type of passenger trains you use im not sure if u have 1 but you cud get a class 60
 
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Landranger

Hello Trainzessex,
Now you have gone for the Norfolk route what you need is an Ordnance Survey Landranger map. This will show you a lot more detail that GE or Planning Portal because it gives you info on embankments and cuttings as well as a lot of other things you will need to know. I use them when I work on an actual route because GE only gives you an overhead view, not ground elevation details.
And maybe some kind sould will make you a DEM for the area as it's not a very long route. This will act as you baseboards and have all the correct (well, almost!) ground contours, roads, rivers and forest marked in different colours. But to see it you must go get the HOG (Hand Of God) texture files. I can't remember the site but some kind sould will give that link I am sure.

OK, we have got you going on a route more suited to Trainz. I can't remember which version of Trainz you are using so please remind me. I use 2004 to create routes, but I have also used TC3 and 2006 for a short while before my PC broke down.
I shall PM you soon, during today most likely, with a few questions that are best not put on the forum. I like helping the young generation, I have two young lads who come here to run my PC (I trust them to do it) and work in Trainz. Pity you live in Essex and I in Middlesex... never mind, we can overcome distance.

Angela
 
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Please do not post your replies on the open forum, nor indeed any personal information and that includes email addresses. Always use email or a PM for that kind of thing.

Angela

EDIT :- Of interest; I was experimenting with one of the stations from London that ran to the south coast, a third rail line. But most of it was elevated and once you put trains up above housing, and housing in and around London is intense, it means adding a lot of detail. The frame rate suffered really badly and in the end I gave up on the idea. Elevating the tracks on sheer sided embankments was the way they chose of trying to avoid going through the houses, although I don't think they really suceeded....
 
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trainzessex

i was just wondering where abouts your new route is


i dont know alot about places out of the west contry of england

....well theres not alot of answears enymore....
 
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thank you angelah
i think i leave fenchurch street for a bit and have a look at Norwich to Yarmouth line

After beeing away for a while I just came across this thread I have tried to give this route a shot before my broardband got cut off and I lost all Google Earth. It is a very big job I took me 2 months to get from Shoeburyness to Southend East.

Shoeburynesspark.jpg


Playground.jpg


These were took before I got 2010 now I have to sort out the faulty stuff

BTW I recomend you download everything that starts with FMA or DS or made by paulzmay they're always top quality and very helpfull content.

Keep up the building

:D

Andy
 
After beeing away for a while I just came across this thread I have tried to give this route a shot before my broardband got cut off and I lost all Google Earth. It is a very big job I took me 2 months to get from Shoeburyness to Southend East.

Shoeburynesspark.jpg


Playground.jpg


These were took before I got 2010 now I have to sort out the faulty stuff

BTW I recomend you download everything that starts with FMA or DS or made by paulzmay they're always top quality and very helpfull content.

Keep up the building

:D

Andy

thank u where did you get the c2c train from
 
trainzessex i dont know if you know allready but nexusdj has uploaded some nice content to the dls which might look good on your route
 
Trainzessex you may wish to add some 3rd rail for your DC units to gain power from :hehe: If you wish to use the same track Mike10 did a 3rd rail spline you add to the exsisting track :) HTH
 
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