thank you dmbphoenix and williamconcepcion I worked on it for long time I still have to finish the port Washington branch I have like six more stations to complete and its done. I also have a couple of issues I'm trying to fix within the route then i'll gladly send it to you guys, I'm really hoping I can fix my issues without having start over from a earlier draft it's tracks all over a certain part of the route that just appeared one day after saving my work in surveyor so once I figure out how to delete these splines i'll continue on and give updates until I finish thanks again guys.