Laundry Detergent
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johnwhelan
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When I was washing clothes with my mother, I happened to notice our powered tide detergent was running down to the bottom. Do you think it's a good idea to move powder detergent in closed hopper cars?
But why would you want to? The consumers use in in packets so why not packet it up where you make it rather than handle it twice?
Cheerio John
Gandalf0444
FVRR member
Be a funny site to see if one of them hoppers sprung a leak in the roof.
hello again: after reding this I had to put a post in this: what if the hopper had like he said just soap not boxed in the hopper but what if the hopper jumps the tracks and into the river with all the soap in the hopper I'm sure the soap will be all but white bubbles flowing down the river into the bay where someone will see a white foam where someone tells him no its soap thats all.bombardier
cascaderailroad
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Home made weed killer: Couple cups of rock salt, or pool salt ... couple cups of any discount dish washing soap ... 1 gallon of vinegar ... spray weeds with large pump garden sprayer.
Vinegar $ 1.88 gallon
Dish soap 41 oz $ 2.00
Rock salt: free gathered from the local highway winter salt crew (when they are on the radio or cell phone, at a stop sign, leaving the salt spinner spreader running, leaving behind a 200 lb speed bump of wasted rock salt ... go out and scoop up 200 lbs of free rock salt).
The dish detergent makes the salt water stick to the weed leaves, and dries to a powdery white color, which de-moisturises the weed leaf of moisture, killing the weed root.
Hence when the retreating Romans: Salted the Earth of conquered Countries, so that nothing would grow, causing starvation.
Vinegar ($ 1.88 a gallon) is 5% Acetic Acid, will cure inner ear infections and swimmers ear ... Pharmacy Acetic Acid: $ 45 per 1/16 oz
Vinegar $ 1.88 gallon
Dish soap 41 oz $ 2.00
Rock salt: free gathered from the local highway winter salt crew (when they are on the radio or cell phone, at a stop sign, leaving the salt spinner spreader running, leaving behind a 200 lb speed bump of wasted rock salt ... go out and scoop up 200 lbs of free rock salt).
The dish detergent makes the salt water stick to the weed leaves, and dries to a powdery white color, which de-moisturises the weed leaf of moisture, killing the weed root.
Hence when the retreating Romans: Salted the Earth of conquered Countries, so that nothing would grow, causing starvation.
Vinegar ($ 1.88 a gallon) is 5% Acetic Acid, will cure inner ear infections and swimmers ear ... Pharmacy Acetic Acid: $ 45 per 1/16 oz
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Well, you learn something every day! Thanks for that little history lesson.
I thought the expression "salt of the earth" or being "worth one's salt" might have come from the same practise, but evidently not:
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[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue]The expression is Biblical and comes from Matthew, 5:13. From the King James Bible of 1611: “Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.” [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue]Salt has always been one of the most prized commodities, essential both for life and for preserving food. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue]Roman soldiers were paid an allowance to buy salt, the origin of our salary. A man worth his salt is efficient or capable. To eat salt with someone was to accept his hospitality and a person who did so was bound to look after his host’s interests. The Bible also speaks of a covenant of salt, one of holy and perpetual obligation. Newborn children were anciently rubbed with salt to protect them against evil forces. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue]To Jesus, therefore, salt of the earth was a great compliment. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue](The use of salt to poison the ground is entirely separate.)"[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Laundry detergent has not usually been handled in covered hopper cars, in part because of the fact that in bulk quantities, the chemicals it contains might cause it to come under the jurisdiction of hazardous materials regulations. I know that some dry laundry detergents come in larger quantities. I have purchased powered detergent in 5 gallon buckets, and I would not be surprised if commercial laundries--for example, companies that provide laundry services for hospitals and other health care institutions--do not purchase it in larger quantities, for example an IBC tank, as shown at http://www.uline.com/BL_173/IBC-Tank .
And while the finished product probably does not move in covered hopper cars, I would not be surprised to find that some of the ingredients used in the manufacture of laundry detergent are shipped to the manufacturer in bulk quantities, both by tank car, and by covered hopper.
Finally, if any laundry detergent does move by covered hopper car, the most likely destination of the car would be a custom packager. These are companies whose business consists of taking bulk quantities of material produced by someone else, and putting it into smaller, end user quantity containers. An example would be a grocery store chain that purchases a carload of detergent, and has it shipped to a facility where it is packaged into its own custom packaging.
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Detergents are primarily surfactants. Surfactants lower the surface tension of water, essentially making it 'wetter' so that it is less likely to stick to itself and more likely to interact with oil and grease. Modern detergents contain more than surfactants. Cleaning products may also contain enzymes to degrade protein-based stains, bleaches to de-color stains and add power to cleaning agents, and blue dyes to counter yellowing.
Modern detergents may be made from petrochemicals or from oleochemicals derived from plants and animals. Alkalis and oxidizing agents are also chemicals found in detergents. Here's a look at the functions these molecules serve:
Modern detergents may be made from petrochemicals or from oleochemicals derived from plants and animals. Alkalis and oxidizing agents are also chemicals found in detergents. Here's a look at the functions these molecules serve:
- Petrochemicals/Oleochemicals
These fats and oils are hydrocarbon chains which are attracted to the oily and greasy grime.
- Oxidizers
Sulfur trioxide, ethylene oxide, and sulfuric acid are among the molecules used to produce the hydrophilic component of surfactants. Oxidizers provide an energy source for chemical reactions. These highly reactive compounds also act as bleaches.
- Alkalis
Sodium and potassium hydroxide are used in detergents even as they are used in soapmaking. They provide positively charged ions to promote chemical reactions.
It is the surfactants, in liquid or solid bulk form, that are shipped to the detergent manufactures. Other ingredients are Sodium Carbonate (soda ash), Borax, Sodium Hypochlorite, Clay, Zeolites, & Calcium hypochlorite are shipped via covered hopper.
John
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Joined Feb 21, 2001
Hmmm... would give 'Tide water route' a different perspective, methinks. Or, perhaps, an 'All' encompassing route...
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