Is There A New Trainz 2011 Or 2012 On The Way
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Who knows what they have on the table at the moment. I do know they're working on bug fixes and such.
I'm sure, Steve, there are future versions in the works. I do know that TS2010 makes better use of the multi-threading, multi-core capabilities of the new processors. This makes a big difference in how the program performs.
John
Gandalf0444
FVRR member
There really is no need for dual GPUs in trainz. Heck some people even say there is no need for SLI etc period and that it is just a marketing scam to get people to think that 2,3, or 4 is better then one. Which isn't always the case.
I have run trainz in both SLI & CROSSFIRE and it does make a hell of a difference ,i think the only reason Auran would 'nt change the engine in trainz is because to many people would think that they needed to update there computers to play the game therefor sales of the game would 'nt be high,
however most people do update there computers every 2 to 3 years .
Single video cards are great on the smaller routes but when it comes to a big route sli or crossfire is a must.
As for the future of trainz Auran should move to take advantage of all tech that is avalible as soon as possible ,why,Auran has done alot of work over the years and put alot of money to the investment of trainz ,in this cut throut world it would be east for another company to come in and create a new updated train sim ,i am know tech head but if a big game software company wanted to do this Auran could lose half there profit at least from trainz and could be far more .
just my view
however most people do update there computers every 2 to 3 years .
Single video cards are great on the smaller routes but when it comes to a big route sli or crossfire is a must.
As for the future of trainz Auran should move to take advantage of all tech that is avalible as soon as possible ,why,Auran has done alot of work over the years and put alot of money to the investment of trainz ,in this cut throut world it would be east for another company to come in and create a new updated train sim ,i am know tech head but if a big game software company wanted to do this Auran could lose half there profit at least from trainz and could be far more .
just my view
A small dose of reality may help here:
1....Who would fund N3V to pay for a new game engine?
2....Please supply facts to support that statement.
3....May not be correct to assume that. The global economic crisis has has changed the way people buy things. Most people globally are dealing with feeding their family, making mortgage payments or rent payments.
4....Who would fund N3V to make this change?
5....The market for trains sims in very small. Even MicroSoft got out of the trains game market.
6....Please supply facts to support that statement.
I am sorry to disagree with your views, but try to get current with world economics.
Have fun,
Why do they have to create there own game engine when they can use an existing one. Such as the one created by Epic Games. Unless there is no game engine that would allow a game such as Trainz to be built, but changing small things to allow this is stile cheaper then creating from scratch.
Cheers,
JRT
you would be suprised at who would fund what to make money ,however don't get off your horse about it ,its just a point of view nothing more .
the reality is progress leaves the old behind and always wins in the end
so change for what is seen to be better will always happen,and in your statement you more or less state that Auran would do better not doing trainz ,
do you forget that Auran had to start somewhere
most old people hate progress it leaves them behind
just my view.
have fun
the reality is progress leaves the old behind and always wins in the end
so change for what is seen to be better will always happen,and in your statement you more or less state that Auran would do better not doing trainz ,
do you forget that Auran had to start somewhere
most old people hate progress it leaves them behind
just my view.
have fun
And who do you think created all this new progress, just because we do not necessarily want all the fancy eye candy stuff that is put forward as progress doesn't mean we hate progress.
Take the new iphone as an example of 'new' progress, hands free wow conference call phones have been around for decades, ditto touch screens, oh yeah the iphone is progress?? a mobile phone that cuts out if you hold it in your hand, yet it is still selling by the million, who are the fools buying that piece of junk erm progress, I'll bet there were not many 'old people' in the queues.
Computers, of the semi-conductor type, have been around for about 35~40 years now and we 'old people' have had that much experience with them, how much have the 'young people' had hmmmmmmm
Cheers David
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now what did i say about not getting off your horse campion ,computers have'nt been around 35 years ago that can do the stuff they have done over the past 15 or so years your memory might be fading there a little bit and i do not mean to be disrespectfull to you ,id like to see the commadore 64 run trainz the first version ,the iphone has nothing to do with trainz or a model train set you had as a child till now for a hobby,when the next iphone invention comes out the iphone will be forgotten and touch screens really only been in general public for what 5 years none of those things you stated have been around for 2 or 3 decades to the general public ,
however trains is a hobby that has come from generation till now ,it has extended its self to the computer ,no matter what line of business you are in you must keep in front of the oposition or your business will fail to an extent,
do you think the world is going to stay i a recession for eternity,and really most countries only back of on spending because they are told by there goverments continualy that they are in a recession when they are not like Australia,and as far as old people go i am old to,,,,so i was here when all these fancy phones and crap came out, 30 years ago dvd players were not around talk about carry on old fella,get a grip for god sake
however trains is a hobby that has come from generation till now ,it has extended its self to the computer ,no matter what line of business you are in you must keep in front of the oposition or your business will fail to an extent,
do you think the world is going to stay i a recession for eternity,and really most countries only back of on spending because they are told by there goverments continualy that they are in a recession when they are not like Australia,and as far as old people go i am old to,,,,so i was here when all these fancy phones and crap came out, 30 years ago dvd players were not around talk about carry on old fella,get a grip for god sake
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I hope Auran holds off making a new trainz version for a year or so. And focus on making content and route packs. Speedrocks, Speedgrass, and Speedbushes along with better Speedtreez is what I would like to see. And maybe a few more service pack for TS 2010. Just my opinion tho.
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Unreal Engine generally doesn't work too well with open-world games, just look at some of the MMOs developed on top of it. UE3 works better than UE2 in that regard.
Also, the licensing for UE3 is approximately $800,000. That's a lot of money for a small company like Auran/N3VRFAIL.
While there are game engines out there that are more suited for open-world environments, most of them still depend on the content being developer-produced and optimised for the engine, this approach generally doesn't mesh well with user-generated content. An example of the issues would be that an engine may benefit from a house object being optimised so that the north-east corner is the first set of vertices, or such. Easy for a company that is developing the game and the content, not so easy for 3rd party producers of content.
Besides all that, going with a pre-existing game engine would very likely involve throwing away every asset created for trainz ever. That's even worse than the worst-case situation the september-doom-sayers fear.
Personally, I wish they would chuck it all and start over while developing along two lines.
The TC series was a great performing set and overlooked. A new TC4 with all the enhancements of 09 without the native/compatible mode headaches would have been great. They could have brought that along to keep money coming in while developing a new sim.
2010 should have been it's own complete entity. Drop the backwards compatibility and the problems it causes with errors. Of course, it would require all NEW content, something I don't think Auran is willing to get into.
I would happily buy a TC4 type release with 5m grid, better signaling and full support of older content that runs as well as previous TC releases. I would also happily buy a separate 2010 type release with zero backwards compatibility, even at the cost of limited included content, like in the TC series. Let it develop on it's own.
Better yet, if 2011 came with two discs in the box, one with full support of older content only, one with full support of new content only, they would get my money right now. No more performance hits either way since they would be two separate installs.
It's not about progress. It's about trying to transition from old to new in the same release. All while still using the same old game engine and all that DLS content. Keep them separate and you could probably keep on using Jet.
Dave........
The TC series was a great performing set and overlooked. A new TC4 with all the enhancements of 09 without the native/compatible mode headaches would have been great. They could have brought that along to keep money coming in while developing a new sim.
2010 should have been it's own complete entity. Drop the backwards compatibility and the problems it causes with errors. Of course, it would require all NEW content, something I don't think Auran is willing to get into.
I would happily buy a TC4 type release with 5m grid, better signaling and full support of older content that runs as well as previous TC releases. I would also happily buy a separate 2010 type release with zero backwards compatibility, even at the cost of limited included content, like in the TC series. Let it develop on it's own.
Better yet, if 2011 came with two discs in the box, one with full support of older content only, one with full support of new content only, they would get my money right now. No more performance hits either way since they would be two separate installs.
It's not about progress. It's about trying to transition from old to new in the same release. All while still using the same old game engine and all that DLS content. Keep them separate and you could probably keep on using Jet.
Dave........
gaugetamper
Sounds, Routes, Historian
We don't Need More Versions of trainz, We Need Auran To Slow down and take time and care into there product, Releasing A New Trainz Every year Thats 40, 50, $60, Isn't Making it any funner, And Cutting support for those that realized this, and have never used anything never then TRS06, Isn't helping there cause either, But If you all want to go broke Running New Versions of trainz so often you never remember where your content is, Then Fine, But Playing a new Version of the same game every while isn't fun. It's ok if theres something new and exciting But If you make it routine it becomes a bit of a chore... Just think about what your Investing In and I hope Auran Will Too, I'm Sticking with 06 Cause there was never anything wrong with it in the first place. They Could of, And Should of Stoped There.
- Chris N
- Chris N
Yes i think you are right gaugetamper they could make as much or more just doing addon packs rather than a hole new engine build game,maybe even to combine a few of there sim games together say ts 2010 plus there tank and pt games as one maybe to add a bit of stratergy to the game
steve
steve
Subscription?
Maybe Trainz could go the subscription route.
Maybe Trainz could go the subscription route.
- The game is free, but you pay for the time to play and download.
- when first class ticket runs out the trainz unions on you layouts go on strike and your engines don't move.
- You can still build your layout, just can't drive.:'(
- Updates are automatic even without a FCT.
- Just have to keep your FCT up to date to keep the trainz unions happy:hehe:
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