Invisible consists

[midlifemalenurse]

In a layout I designed, there are 10-12 consists that show up in a cluster. They are invisible on Surveyor and Driver, but show up on the maps. They are also real because they derail trains I try to run. I have tried deleting consists in
Surveyor and Driver, but they won't go away - they're back the next time I log in. Does anyone know how to get rid of these permanently? Thank you for any help or ideas. I am running Trainz 2009.

 

[F2Andy]

I had exactly the same problem a week or so ago (also TS2009). I got rid of them by copying a section of empty land and pasting it over the top. Even now, I think it is still around in some form, as I can assign a driver to that consist, but it no longer has any effect on passing training.

 

[affinityone]

This worked for me; in surveyor, add any rolling stock adjacent to invisible consist, then move visible car and couple to consist, then delete entire consist. Reeat if necessary. Use mini map to watch what happens.