IndustRail 8a: Error Message

[mattm]

Hi all, hope your evening/morning/afternoon goes well. I have a small problem that i hope to get assistance with, if possible. The title pretty much gives you an idea of what the problem is, but first some background.

I have recently become a fan of the excellent route-building talents of Philskene, and have DL'd a number of his routes for my own enjoyment. Thus far, all has gone well, with all required assets being downloaded from CMP with no problems.
This evening however, i downloaded Urban IndustRail 8a. Again, with the exception of one asset not being captured by CMP, all went well. Salivating slightly, such is the quality of work i expected, i loaded the route into surveyor, and was hit with the following error message:

Would some kind person please enlighten me as to what the above means? All i can tell is that it is some type of industry fault(?).

Thank you, and good night.

Edit: Me again! I forgot to to mention this. Clicking Continue in the message box does allow me to do just that with, thus far, no subsequent problems(fingers crossed.) I have not hit Abort yet, however i may try that, just to see what happens.

Anyway, that's all i wanted to add. Bye.

 

[Joseph45f]

I don't know if Phil frequents these forums but I have always had my issues directly addressed by him over at the trs forum at train sim. In the meantime I have never seen an error like that, what does the route look like in the cmp? Is it missing any dependencies?

 

[mattm]

Joseph45f: Thank you for the quick reply. I was not necessarily looking for Phil himself to answer the question, but if i don't get much help here, and Phil doesn't show up in the meantime, i may try that.
As for the error message, i haven't seen one like it either. I'm thinking it may have something to do with the modified TPR autoplant tracks he loves so much. Why this would be so, i have no idea. As i said, i have a number of his routes, which include those assets, and they work just fine for me.
If you re-read my original post, i mention that with the exception of one item*, there are no missing dependencies; only faulty ones, and i have plenty of those in other routes/assets.
*Missing dependency was subsequently downloaded, by the way.

Anyway, it's late in the land of Oz, so i'm going to bed now. Maybe somebody will suggest something overnight.

Ciao, Matt.

 

[tomurban]

Joseph45f: Thank you for the quick reply. I was not necessarily looking for Phil himself to answer the question, but if i don't get much help here, and Phil doesn't show up in the meantime, i may try that.
As for the error message, i haven't seen one like it either. I'm thinking it may have something to do with the modified TPR autoplant tracks he loves so much. Why this would be so, i have no idea. As i said, i have a number of his routes, which include those assets, and they work just fine for me.
If you re-read my original post, i mention that with the exception of one item*, there are no missing dependencies; only faulty ones, and i have plenty of those in other routes/assets.
*Missing dependency was subsequently downloaded, by the way.

Anyway, it's late in the land of Oz, so i'm going to bed now. Maybe somebody will suggest something overnight.

Ciao, Matt.

That appears to be a non-fatal script error. It does no harm, but should be repaired as the particular industry (power station?) may not work as intended. I agree, Phil's routes are great and I use 5a which I modified to use return loops at both ends.

tomurban

 

[Joseph45f]

There's so much to do in PO&N that I haven't even tried his other routes. What's the differences with all the industrail routes? Like 8a and 5a etc.

 

[tomurban]

There's so much to do in PO&N that I haven't even tried his other routes. What's the differences with all the industrail routes? Like 8a and 5a etc.

They are all basically all the same route, only progressively longer (more boards, more industries, more activities).

tomurban

 

[philskene]

Blame bendorsey

Hi Matt --

That error message is caused by bendorsey's "Commercial_Coal_Company", kuid 210518:1018

You will find three versions of this on the Download Station, :1, :2 and :3 (it took three tries for Ben to get it right).

From memory and depending on the version number it shows error free in TRS2004. You can ignore the error message in TRS2006+ - you will find that I don't use it's coal loading configuration anyway, preferring to substitute an interactive section of track that allows it to load all sorts of minerals as well as coal.

Tom --

"They are all basically all the same route, only progressively longer ... ."

And better too, I hope!

It's just that I haven't, as yet, got round to uploading sessions for the latest version, "IndustRail 3a".

Phil

 

[mattm]

Blame Bendosey? You got it!

Hi Phil. Thanks for the reply. I did notice that there was a Bulk Loader over the Commercial Coal Company's track. I suppose i can substitute the interactive coal company with a non-interactive one.
I was planning a few alterations anyway, to allow simple AI interchange operations. I will have a look at whats available tonight, and substitute a suitable structure.

Thank you, i shall let you know how it goes. Watch this space (or not, it's up to you.)

 

[mattm]

Hi all. Me again, and the news is not good.

Phil: I have gone into the route and deleted the Bendorsey Commercial Coal Company. I then went into CMP, opened the route for edit, and made sure references to the asset were gone from the config file. Re-loading the route into surveyor showed the same error message.
I am at a loss as to what steps to take next, as i have no idea how to troubleshoot problems with faulty assets, ect. With those words, i throw myself at the mercy of those of you who have experience in these matters. For now i shall continue modifying Phil's Mad River Extended for AI ops. With your guidance i shall hopefully track down the source of the error, and eradicate it.

Thank you, Mattm.

 

[philskene]

Hi Matt --

The way that I tracked down the problem was to go into CM (I'm running TS2009 rather than TRS2006, but that should not matter) and deleted the Commercial Coal Company.

I then downloaded both :1 and :2 of the CCC from the Download Station via FTP. When I dragged and dropped either of these versions into CM the route was shown as error free (well, except for the coronas needed by the upper quadrant signals) and the route came up in Surveyor without that error message.

If you do want to remove the CCC completely, one approach might be to remove it in CMP, open the route in Surveyor and then use the "Delete Missing Assets" option. Finally "Save".

Tell us if this helps.

Phil

Edit:
Of course, you could always go straight to "IndustRail 3a" - bigger, better, ... , only a few more downloads (once the DLS is up again) and no error message.

 

[tomurban]

They are all basically all the same route, only progressively longer ... ."

And better too, I hope!

It's just that I haven't, as yet, got round to uploading sessions for the latest version, "IndustRail 3a".

Phil

Sorry about that Phil. Can I say it now, and better too. You are a true craftsman. Incidently Phil, I have moved 5a which was error free in in 2006 to to 2009. CM2 is showing approximately 15 faulty assets in 2009 that I am in the process of correcting, mostly tags and stuff. No operational problems or those dreaded script errors.

Cheers, Tom

 

[mattm]

Hi, Phil, and once again thanks for replying. It's much appreciated. I don't quite follow you, however. Are you saying that i remove the faulty asset completely from my computer, and then re-download it via FTP?
I will download IndustRail 3a,and look at that.

Until we meet again, i bid you adios.

 

[mattm]

Phil, good news! The error message has been banished to the nether world. It seems that V2 of the Coal_Company was included with 06, as a built-in asset. Disabling this, deleting V3, opening the route and saving, after deleting missing assets, seems to have done the trick. This may cause problems in the built-in routes, but i hardly use them, so we'll deal with that if it happens.

My problem now is finding a suitable asset to replace the ones i got rid of. Suggestions, anybody? Also Phil, i downloaded IndustRail 3a. Great work, as always, however, it's a bit much for my computer to handle. I'll have to muck around with it, to try and get decent frame rates on it.

Anyway, a big thanks for your assistance. I appreciate it very much.

Matt.