I Have Got TRS2010, not sure what I will do with it!!

gremlin1812

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I have purchased TRS2010 boxed set from the Auran shop, received it inside of 3 working days so top marks for dispatch. Opened the package and there it was so shiny and new, I could not help noticing on the top left “OVER 1 MILLION copies sold” Mmmm multiply by $49.95 and round it = $50,000,000+ Mmmm tidy turnover in only 6 months, POOR Auran.:hehe:
Loaded on my PC and as I expected, a slide show with scenery popping out at the last minute and there is one particular stupid speed tree which is a skeleton till the last minute when it all of a sudden sprouts a poor excuse for foliage, Auran you got to replace that one it is an absolute joke even on a good PC. Then a steam train waiting at the station, the smoke is blowing one way and the trees another, another joke.:D
Yes I have read the forums and have the latest drivers etc.:eek:
Oh well at least I am now considered a customer again (I think), the box is sitting on the shelf above my pc desk, looks pretty. :sleep:
So until I get a PC that will run it, that is where it will stay and any way I am to busy getting everything I want for my other Trainz versions before time runs out. Then I can start enjoying Trainz and learning more about what makes it tick. I still use MSTS and enjoy it, I quite like UTC its fun and TRS04 and 06 are great too. Hopefully when I finally get to use TRS2010 I will not have too much problem in using it as I will have an understanding of the workings and all of the bugs will have been fixed by then, Mmmm.:hehe:
Regards
Barrie
 
2010 running choppy on my 6 year old HP Pavilion computer is my biggest concern for not buying it. I don't have $50 to waste for a shelf decoration and unable to purchase another PC at this time.

Someone mentioned that 2010 runs smoother than previous versions on older computers, but that's one person's view versus many, including yours that say it's a slide show.
 
I have purchased TRS2010 boxed set from the Auran shop, received it inside of 3 working days so top marks for dispatch. Opened the package and there it was so shiny and new, I could not help noticing on the top left “OVER 1 MILLION copies sold” Mmmm multiply by $49.95 and round it = $50,000,000+ Mmmm tidy turnover in only 6 months, POOR Auran.:hehe:
Loaded on my PC and as I expected, a slide show with scenery popping out at the last minute and there is one particular stupid speed tree which is a skeleton till the last minute when it all of a sudden sprouts a poor excuse for foliage, Auran you got to replace that one it is an absolute joke even on a good PC. Then a steam train waiting at the station, the smoke is blowing one way and the trees another, another joke.:D
Yes I have read the forums and have the latest drivers etc.:eek:
Oh well at least I am now considered a customer again (I think), the box is sitting on the shelf above my pc desk, looks pretty. :sleep:
So until I get a PC that will run it, that is where it will stay and any way I am to busy getting everything I want for my other Trainz versions before time runs out. Then I can start enjoying Trainz and learning more about what makes it tick. I still use MSTS and enjoy it, I quite like UTC its fun and TRS04 and 06 are great too. Hopefully when I finally get to use TRS2010 I will not have too much problem in using it as I will have an understanding of the workings and all of the bugs will have been fixed by then, Mmmm.:hehe:
Regards
Barrie

Barrie,

Before you start complaining too loudly, check out your machine more thoroughly. This sounds like there's something amiss with the system. Post the specs of your machine as this will help us troubleshoot your problem and get you up and running.

Offhand here are a somethings to check:

Ventilation. Trainz is a very complex program and really pushes the computer hardware to its fullest capacity. Today machines will actually throttle back instead of crashing - in other words the computer hardware such as the processor and video card will slow down rather than continue to operate in a very hot environment.

To rectify this problem, try cleaning out any extra dust bunnies that maybe inside the case and in the fans. I have removed dust clumps with cat fur in them that were so thick that I swear I could have used them as couch stuffing. Note: This was someone else's machine, not mine!

Ensure you have plenty of disk space.

The computer OS, not matter how much RAM you have, will create temporary files. This is the way every multitasking operating system works whether your using VAX/VMS on an old VAX 11780, and IBM 3270, or even UNIX, Windows, or Apple's offerings. When an operating system needs to swap its self out of RAM to make room for the programs, it writes its data to temporary files and a pagefile. If you don't have enough space to do this, the system will spend its time swapping stuff around to make room. This will create excess disk access and cause the computer to run sluggishly particularly when the program is very CPU and memory intenstive.

Now keeping this in mind, the other issue is programs are not kind housemates on your computer. Instead of cleaning up after themselves, they will leave bits and pieces of their temporary files around. Combine this with your personal files such as pictures, documents and other stuff, internet temporary files, and eventually your disk will become cluttered.

There are many utilities available (some free) to remove the junk files and keep your disk clean.

Speaking of disks... Defragment them. When a disk is written to, the operating system will choose the first available open sector to place some data. After that it chooses any other open sectors to place the data. The problem is eventually the disk read heads are moving around more than they should to retrieve the data. A periodic defragment of the data will prevent this excessive movement by keeping the data sectors all together in close proximity. The advantage of this is seen particularly when data is copied or read into memory. This issue will also effect temporary file swapping by the OS and programs as well as retrieving data. Granted computers are faster than before, but the disk is still the slowest component so keep this and mind and give a defrag a try. There are many free as well as commercial utilities for this operation.

Check for memory problems. A bad memory stick can cause weird issues. I had a totally weird problem that kept me busy until I finally tracked it down. The problem was Trainz would stutter and finally crash, but only in a particular point in a route, and only after a certain amount of time. After checking and changing many parts, like my power supply, the problem was solved.

And finally, check your power supply. A flaky power supply will give up when its needed the most. Instead of putting more power out, it'll take a walk-about instead and cause poor performance and possibly damage to your hardware. Getting back to my memory problem, I really contribute that to an original power supply issue. The machine came with a really inexpensive power supply and shortly after I purchased my machine, it pooped out. Much later on, I had a bad hard drive and then the memory problems.

Anyway there are many problems that can contribute to poor performance. Some programs will push the hardware more than others, and make these problems more evident.

John
 
How you have your system setup plays a big role in the performance of Trainz or anything else. If you have non-essential background processes and anti-virus software turned off, you can realize a major performance boost. I run a minimum-spec system and TS2010 runs fine. Then again, I run it offline, so I have no need for anti-virus software or many of the background processes like automatic updaters, etc.
 
I could not help noticing on the top left “OVER 1 MILLION copies sold” Mmmm multiply by $49.95 and round it = $50,000,000+ Mmmm tidy turnover in only 6 months, POOR Auran.

That'll be 1 million copies of Trainz sold since 2000, not of TS2010. I would also imagine that a lot of those would have made Auran only a couple of dollars.

Mike.
 
G’Day John,

PC specifications

P4 3Ghz (single core)
XP SP3 (32 bit)
Nvidea GeForce 6200 (256Meg AGP)
500 gig hard drive (IDE, 300gig free)
Operating system and programs on a separate hard drive
3 gig ram (333)
Page file 6639 Mb available
No internet connection
No firewall
No anti virus/spy ware
Software specific to train simulators only
Perfect Disc 2008 used for defragmenting from a bootable CD
Ventilation OK cleaned every 3 months.

I’m not that worried about running it at this point as I have loads of playing in UTC, TRS 04 & 06 which all run fine and are all great each in there own way. As I said before when I get a better PC to run it (as for me it is pointless running a simulator throttled back) hopefully there will be some content for it and the bugs patched out so I can then have some great times with it too.

Regards
Barrie
 
That'll be 1 million copies of Trainz sold since 2000, not of TS2010. I would also imagine that a lot of those would have made Auran only a couple of dollars.

Mike.
Well if that is the case that is what they should have said as what I quoted is exactly what it says on the TRS2010 box (“OVER 1 MILLION copies sold” ) and by inference it means TRS2010. Maybe this is a marketing ploy but if it is it is using deception, they only had to add one word "Trainz" if that was what they meant.
Regards
Barrie
 
Doesn't sound right at all.
It ran fine on my previous Athlon XP and 2 GB of ramand shutty gpu.
My bet is defective drivers. Then RAM...
 
I suspect they mean 1,000,000 copies of Trainz sold, not just 2010. but, yes, they should clarify that.

One thing that jumps out at me is that your video card is below spec. I believe TS2010 asks prefers at least an 8000-series card. While 2010 is said to rely primarily on the main CPU, many graphics calculations are very intense and, if you don't have a GPU handling them, then they're going to have to be emulated in software, resulting in awful performance.

Your swapfile seems way too big. 6GB is huge. 1-2Gb is about normal for XP.

One trick that may help is to keep your swapfile on your second disk i.e. the one without the OS since both IDE controllers can be operated simultaneously.

The fact that you are running IDE can be a problem in itself. Does your motherboard support SATA? If so, look into buying a SATA drive (but never buy an "OEM" one, get one in a retail box. You'll probably need SATA cables and power connectors anyway.)

Is XP setup to use 3Gb? I asked about this a few months back, but TS2010, thanks to the OS, will only use 2Gb. Auran has specifically told me that TS2010 supports the /3Gb switch in your boot.ini file that will allow Trainz to use extra memory. Auran apparently tested this feature. Read more here:

http://www.maxi-pedia.com/3GB+switch+Windows+boot.ini+3+GB
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?p=519751#post519751
 
Barrie,

Before you start complaining too loudly, check out your machine more thoroughly. This sounds like there's something amiss with the system.

Not really. It sounds pretty par for the course for TRS. My computer is pretty good, and I can run alot of routes just fine, with only minimal stuttering. Of course, the routes that I build tend to get more stuttering because I superdetail everything.

Plus it doesn't help that the sped ed trees are high poly. I would suggest replacing them with the superior cross trees, such as Gfisher's, or Trundas. But that is just me.
 
Not really. It sounds pretty par for the course for TRS. My computer is pretty good, and I can run alot of routes just fine, with only minimal stuttering. Of course, the routes that I build tend to get more stuttering because I superdetail everything.

Plus it doesn't help that the sped ed trees are high poly. I would suggest replacing them with the superior cross trees, such as Gfisher's, or Trundas. But that is just me.

But now that he's posted his machine specs, we can see that his video card is well below the recommended. He's running a 6200, which is crap and always was crap and doesn't even meet the minimum recommended video card for TS2010.

I too tend to plunk the details down too, which makes my personal route stutter. The SpeedTreez aren't as bad if you disable the wind. I've also gone back and thinned my forests a bit and have replaced some of my really thick and close trees with more friendly foliage.

John
 
I have purchased TRS2010 boxed set from the Auran shop, received it inside of 3 working days so top marks for dispatch. Opened the package and there it was so shiny and new, I could not help noticing on the top left “OVER 1 MILLION copies sold” Mmmm multiply by $49.95 and round it = $50,000,000+ Mmmm tidy turnover in only 6 months, POOR Auran.:hehe:
I was just wondering if the Forum has 3000 active users, Auran has sold 1 million copies of TS2010 in 6 months and TS2010 is a bad as some people say why there aren't 997,000 new users here complaining about it... I'd have thought that common sense would tell you that isn't the case but then common sense seems to be in short supply lately.

Paul
 
common sense

I was just wondering...
Paul
Well why it say so on the box of 2010 then? and if is not 2010 and sure can't be 2009 (it wasn't out long enough either), then why they want to close out what was sold to all those 997,000 users! Bottom line is- Barrie: "I quoted is exactly what it says on the TRS2010 box (“OVER 1 MILLION copies sold” )".
Was that total claimed on an earlier version? The way it reads to me is 1-million 2010 sold.
 
I know you are on a one man mission to discredit TS2010 American_connections (that is certainly apparent from your other posts recently), but I think you are really grasping at straws here.

Mike.
 
I know you are on a one man mission to discredit TS2010 American_connections (that is certainly apparent from your other posts recently), but I think you are really grasping at straws here.

Mike.

I think it was in the late 70's or early 80's, that McDonald's claimed to have "over 1 billion sold". Any intelligent person knew - even me as a small boy - that this didn't mean 1 billion of each offering.

Perhaps Auran ought to clarify to appease the lawyers but I get it. Plus, I really don't give a squirt about how many copies of something sold - I care that it is a good product that meets my expectations. I'd say TS2010 did that and then some.
 
[Quote = RRSignal; 603902] I think it WAS in the late 70's or early 80's, McDonald's That Claimed to have "over 1 billion sold." Any intelligent person Knew - even me as a small boy - That this did not mean a billion of Each Offering.

Perhaps Auran Oughta to Clarify to appease the lawyers but i get it. Plus, I really do not give a squirt of something about how many copies sold - I care That it is a good product That meets my Expectations. I'd say did TS2010 That and Then Some. [/ Quote]

The same could be said for the Austin Mini, the Vaultswagon Beatle, and the Model T Ford, So Are All They Frauds then.......I think not!
 
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