How to rotate Marquee selection box in S20?

MSGSapper

Trainz route developer
I am trying to select a drive-in movie theater and all it's objects, splines and textures using the S20 marquee selection tool to enter into my scrapbook.

The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to rotate the selection box which is at an angle to what I am trying to select. See the screenshot below which shows what I am talking about. The marquee selection box is the one with the white dotted line.

Use-of-marquee-selection-tool.jpg


Is there any way to rotate the Marquee selection box so that the selection can be exact?

Bob
 
I am trying to select a drive-in movie theater and all it's objects, splines and textures using the S20 marquee selection tool to enter into my scrapbook.

The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to rotate the selection box which is at an angle to what I am trying to select. See the screenshot below which shows what I am talking about. The marquee selection box is the one with the white dotted line.



Is there any way to rotate the Marquee selection box so that the selection can be exact?

Bob

While the clip is still highlighted, use the height-adjust/rotate tool to adjust your pasted objects.
 
While the clip is still highlighted, use the height-adjust/rotate tool to adjust your pasted objects.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I don't want to paste. I want to rotate the selection box itself before I copy the selected items.

Bob
 
Sadly this can't be done Bob, the marquee must be based on the base grid (and its direction)
you probably can deselect items , 1 by 1 that you don't want
 
Actually that's correct, but misleading. While the marquee is grid based, there are several options to rotate the selection by any number of degrees (which is the bit that matters).

To demonstrate I've laid out some cars which I think is what you're aiming for:
Marquee select and copy to your scrapbook.
Switch to Fine Adjsutment and you now have two anchors - one on the marquee and one on the selection
Click on the selection anchor (so the marquee line disappears) and now you can rotate just the selection.
Shift click on different objects to determine the rotation axis.
Click on the black box in the middle to drag the objects in any direction.

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What i read in Bob's post, he asked if it was possible to turn the selection marquee in such a way,
that he could only select the square of the entire drive-in cinema.
Save that in a scrapbook.
After it is a scrapbook, indeed you can fine rotate as you show with the cars.


the answer is, no you cannot rotate the selection marque,
but once a scrapbook selection is made it can be fine rotated and manipulated.
 
Actually that's correct, but misleading. While the marquee is grid based, there are several options to rotate the selection by any number of degrees (which is the bit that matters).

To demonstrate I've laid out some cars which I think is what you're aiming for:
Marquee select and copy to your scrapbook.
Switch to Fine Adjsutment and you now have two anchors - one on the marquee and one on the selection
Click on the selection anchor (so the marquee line disappears) and now you can rotate just the selection.
Shift click on different objects to determine the rotation axis.
Click on the black box in the middle to drag the objects in any direction.

Tony:

I appreciate the reply and love the new scrapbook feature of S20.

Based on your reply you can move what's in the selection box, but that is not what I am talking about here. it is the selection box itself that I want to rotate and that does not seem to be possible, unless I am missing something here?

Using your example I am able to rotate what I have selected, but when I try to select items the selection box will only align with the underlying grid which makes it hard to select items that are a different angle then the grid.

If you look at my screenshot you will see that the selection box with the white dotted lines is a different angle then the items in the drive-in movie theater. What I need is a way to adjust the angle of the selection box.

Here is a screenshot that shows that the selection box only adheres to the underlying grid:

Selection-example-screenshot.jpg


Bob
 
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