Holding trains in neutral with independent?

[FLWBStrainman]

Haven't tried it, but would it likely work to hold a train with the reverser in the "neutral" position and the independent brake applied (In Trainz, of course)? I am not talking about stopping it that way, just as a method of holding it after the the automatic brake has set up and the train has stopped. In the past, I have always held my trains with the automatic brake, but it can take forever to get to 90 PSI on release! By the way, does anybody else use the terms "automatic brake" and "independent brake" anymore, or is the majority going by "train brake" and "engine brake" now?

 

[Deano5]

It works for me, I switch to the independent brake after being stopped at a signal, ready for a quick get away. Never had a problem, but then I don't drive 2 mile long freight trains up a mountain, mainly 2-10 passenger and smaller UK freight.
Train brake and Independent brake are the terms I use as they are the most referred to.

 

[TrainMan12]

Haven't tried it, but would it likely work to hold a train with the reverser in the "neutral" position and the independent brake applied (In Trainz, of course)? I am not talking about stopping it that way, just as a method of holding it after the the automatic brake has set up and the train has stopped. In the past, I have always held my trains with the automatic brake, but it can take forever to get to 90 PSI on release! By the way, does anybody else use the terms "automatic brake" and "independent brake" anymore, or is the majority going by "train brake" and "engine brake" now?

The automatic is usually left applied after being stopped. The independent may or may not hold you depending on the locomotives, train and gradient.
You should only have to use a 10 pound reduction to stop on most trains, and a 15 pound reduction for heavy trains. Anything more than that and you've miscalculated the time it takes to stop.

I'm not sure if Trainz models this or not, but in real life you don't have to wait for the brake pipe to charge to 90 before moving. The brakes release as soon as the brake pipe pressure is HIGHER than the pressure in the car's service reservoir. If you used 15 pounds to stop a train, the brake pipe and service reservoir on the cars should be at 75 pounds. As soon as the brake pipe pressure increases (i.e 77 pounds) the brakes start to release. The brakes will COMPLETELY release well before you're at 90 pounds, but if you ever need to stop again before you have a fully charged brake pipe you'll have to dig deep on the automatic to get that same application.