Good Bye All, It's Been a Quite a Ride.

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Eh martinvk? I was only was only passing a general remark at the thread starter as being here for two years not making a blanket statement. Maybe he has been here longer as there is only the date showing next his name. People will as said always come and go and there are those who have came here to say they have returned too.

I don't think anyone needs to get too hung up about these moves as it is a fact of life. People join and leave organisations, work and so on. It is of course unfortunate that some who have contributed well move away but I don't think it is any great point of principle in the actual moving in itself?! He has said why he is going and that is fair enough and respected.

Let's not read too much into every time someone feels the need to leave and get overly emotional?
 
So, I see we have these people on this forum as well. The most childish behavior I can think of, is making a thread making a huge deal about leaving the forum, because everything is bad, and it was much better earlier. I see it on almost every forum I am at, and it's always people who themselves have lots and lots of posts, and obviously thinks that makes them important enough to make a big deal about leaving. Well, I'll say the same to you as I say to everyone else like you: If you don't like the forum, you have two alternatives. You can make suggestions to improve the forum, or you can leave without making a fuss about it.

Also, I must say, your post is big words from someone with 2,500 posts in only two years...

I've been around for a long time (before he forum crash) and I agree with olpe. Are you serious? What's the big deal?

I to have seen some pointless or lame posts but I just move on. I'm sure not going to quit Trainz or the forum because I see some silly post. This forum has been a huge help and resource to me over the years. I also enjoy browsing the forum for fun in my free time.

I think this forum is great and I look forward to coming back every week...
 
Snippet: Not to bust your chops but pretty much any forum is toxic these days. The Trainz forums (forae)? are pretty tame compared to just about anything else.

I'm not arguing with that RSSignal, but strangely, when I start a thread in a Trainz forum, people tend to respect it. They seem to answer with genuine responses, the problem is solved, the thread dies quickly and everyone moves on.

I'm also a member of several other forums where waffle, off topic, rude comments etc., never happen. These are also software forums, but not games. Most threads in one forum have 20 - 50 pages of posts, some have several hundred, all on topic.

I think the Trainz forums have always copped their fair share of strange behaviour, but I also think the Mods have jumped on most of it well before we ever get to see the worst of it.

Let's face it, many of the posters here are very young. They enjoy their Hee Hee's and Ho Ho's, but fortunately there's a limit on how many of those silly smilies they can use. There are also many Trolls, the ages of which vary widely.

The thing I miss about the Trainz forums is the off-topic Community Chat forum we had in the old days. The mods could dump anything in there that the more serious forum uses didn't want to know about. There were also yellow and red "Waffle Cards" handed out. Three strikes and you were out. The thing was, we could instantly see who was going to waffle, because their card travelled with them with their signature. It may have been a bit of a game, but it made people realise that their next word on the forum could well be their last. Let's bring those cards back!

Sorry to see you go Woody. But you'll be back!
 
Humour - Assistance - Ideas - Help - Irritation - Inspiration - Admiration - Scorn - Punch-ups - Friendship - Posts we like reading - Posts we skip over - Popcorn

.... and loads more .. the list is endless ..

A hard place to leave, but easy to come back to.

Don’t leave it to those who you feel are bringing it down.

There are enough valued contributors in here that make regular visits very worthwhile, with the irritants being very much in the minority.

Good to see you'll still be in the screenshots section Woody – and hopefully in the rest of the forum.

I see that your “medal count/star rating”, on the banner top, shows TRS2006. Users of the earlier versions will potentially be valuable contributors for mutual forum support later in the year - another good reason for you to stay!

Cheers
Casper
:)

PS: You’re not going into part-retirement to secretly do some Beta testing ..
.....for one of these maybe?

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Lets go for a world record of just how many pages we can continue with this: "Bye Bye" self pitty party.

How many: "I goes Bye-Bye's" threads have we seen ?
 
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How many: "I goes Bye-Bye's" threads have we seen ?
Too many for my taste. What is it about these types of forums that makes people feel obligated to start weepy threads forecasting their imminent departure? And then you get the reply posts begging them to stay. :confused:

Sheesh. Whatever happened to a quiet and dignified exit. When you return will be soon enough to post the inevitable good wishes. :eek:
 
Lets go for a world record of just how many pages we can continue with this: "Bye Bye" self pitty party.

How many: "I goes Bye-Bye's" threads have we seen ?

Alright, enough of your mouth good God.

Perhaps I was just a bit intimidated by this forum to say what really needed said.
That is, I have no intention of leaving, so yes some of you are correct.
But I am tired of this childish protocol on this forum, yes perhaps the way I handled this thread was childish.
Indeed, I left when I should have stayed like a real person would have, I take all the fall for this.

But I will not dare be associated with those that constantly say good bye just because one has offended them, such is not the case here.
What is at hand is a forum that indeed was better two years ago and has been degraded with garbage.
I am sick and tired of the way things are going in Freeware Announcements, just take a freaking look people! There needs to be some rules laid down, if you choose to start a thread, the content needs to be already released, it is announcements not "Can someone make this?" or 'I have started a project that I'll NEVER complete" or the classic "Here is some pirated payware from Landrvr1 that ya'll can have!" .
Don't play around people, many, many of you can relate with me here.
Do you ever tire of sorting through pages of this crap to find a release made by RRMods two days ago?! That is not an exageration and you all know it.
Many of you in this thread have called me bold, that is not necessarily something I am proud of or take credit for, but I'll be bold again.

There is somethings in this forum that need changed, and changed fast.

The same things I mentioned above apply to General Trainz, heck all of the areas, they are full of stuff that is simply a waste of space.
There needs to be rules laid down against the childish posters, and a few burdens lifted from the established ones. We should 100% be allowed to get harsh on these users when it's necessary, that is exactly what they did to me and thank God they did! I cannot express in words alone how much they're "snotty" advice has helped me over the internet.

Johnk has made some excellent points above, especially the need for an off topic section, and if they don't put the off topic stuff in that area then give them the boot. It would really help clear up the other areas from the trash that fills them.

I am a proud member of this community, I love the people I know here, I honestly do they are very entertaining.
But some people just do not know their limit, and when I joined, it was up to the established members to help give them one.

I feel that many share my opinion on this, there are many of a post on a certain other forum that points exactly to this touchy topic.

Moderators, Adminstrators:
There are things that need changed, please don't sit around and act like you don't know what I'm talking about, you do. We need rules that tell these people to be discreet when posting, this forum is not a daycare, let's not act like it. We need something done about it.

Fellow Members:
I realize that I did not approach this in the right way the first time, I'm still learning. Please forgive me for my childish move, but know that my intentions are good and my hopes high.

Thank You all, if you wish to say something constructive either with me or against me, I honor you for it. Because it would be constructive and I appreciate that and it would be an honor to read.


Cheers,
Woody:wave:
 
Hi Woody,
I just want to say, why do you let it get to you like this, we all know that the forums full of new kids, it was obvious that it would happen as word got around that TS2010 was going to be good. All I do now is click on new posts and then just cherry pick the ones of some merit. Simple and no fuss! ;)

Ps:- It will get back to normal some day don’t let it get to you.
 
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So in summary...

1. Poster gets riled up about Forum's childish antics.
2. Poster "leaves" Forum due to childish antics.
3. Poster admits no true intention of leaving (like nobody saw this coming :o ), but also admits his approach qualifies for childish antics.
4. Poster demands (to Members, Mods and Admin) rules/protocol for childish antics.

With the exception of attention seeking inflation of the poster's ego after the expected "please don't leave" and "sorry to see you go" bull**** sob stories, the whole frakking point of this inane thread and exercise is/was exactly??
 
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I can under stand where your coming from Woody which is one of the main reasons why I dont post on this forum any more are come here or deal with trainz anymore,because of how its turned out over the years,and other reasons ,but i'll have to agree their has been alot of threads that are about people leaving trainz. Why not just go and just check in every now an then with out having to make a thread. I will admit you have changed from when you first came here and you've matured alot,but if your going to leave the forums just make a quite leave cause there will be tension for another one of these threads.

Dueces-
DB
 
Woody,
If you let some of what you are on about bother you that much, you're in for a long, rough ride in life.

Somebody posts in the wrong section, announcements of projects that never get finished and yes, the gimme's. So what. How has any of that affected you? It doesn't, except for the fact that you let it.

As far as cracking down on anyone, that is not your, my or anyone else's position. If you believe you are going to "snap" anyone in line, you are mistaken and actually going against the CoC here as well. If something goes on that you don't like, move on past it. If a thread doesn't interest you, well, nothing anyone can do about that. It may interest someone else, at least it did enough to start it.

You want to clean up the forums. But, to who's standards, yours? I can guarantee you what bothers me doesn't bother you and same the other way around. This constant need to correct everyone and pack of wolves attitude that comes out of the woodwork aggravates me to no end.

This forum is full of people from all parts of the world who's customs and mannerisms vary greatly. Something you would never understand unless you have been to where they are. There are also varying ages here and some with disabilities as well. Who is anyone to tell anyone else how to act. This need to clean things up is in direct conflict with what you are complaining about. In other words, you want to do what you are complaining others do.

Don't sweat the small stuff my friend, you will be a lot better off all around for it. People will learn how to conduct themselves, just like you did. It takes time depending on their maturity and age. What they don't need is a mob mentality attacking them at every turn. Those people bug me the worse.

If you want a conversation, start one.
If the replies are not to your satisfaction, move on to another.
Something gets announced and not finished, big deal, no loss.
Gimme's jump in, ignore them, they'll get it eventually.
Most of all, amuse yourself. It's not anyone's place to only post what may please you.

And that content by Landluvr, that is being distributed exactly how the wished it to be. Peer to peer and not hosted anywhere.

You're a pretty good guy, just calm down a bit.

Dave.......
 
Sparky speak with silver tongue

Amen. WWW stands for World Wide Web, anyone goes on the internet you're going to meet people who did not go to your high school in your home town and have different ideas of behavior and decorum. I grew up on the west side of Chicago, so I got thicker skin than a rhino and sometimes offend people without meaning to. Hitting a happy medium, some need to learn more tact, others need to grow thicker skins.

In the event of ACTUAL offensive posts, HIT THE ALERT BUTTON, that exclamation mark in the upper right corner of each post. As a moderator at "flamesim.com" I can tell you that all too often people don't hit the alert button enough, and the moderators get blamed for "allowing the flamewars" that we never even saw. Personally I'd rather get a dozen false alarms for every real problem, than have people hesitate to use the alert button. Most people bring on their own problem by being self appointed forum cops and trying to deal with trolls on their own.
 
So in summary...

1. Poster gets riled up about Forum's childish antics.
2. Poster "leaves" Forum due to childish antics.
3. Poster admits no true intention of leaving (like nobody saw this coming :o ), but also admits his approach qualifies for childish antics.
4. Poster demands (to Members, Mods and Admin) rules/protocol for childish antics.

With the exception of attention seeking inflation of the poster's ego after the expected "please don't leave" and "sorry to see you go" bull**** sob stories, the whole frakking point of this inane thread and exercise is/was exactly??

At last - a sensible post.
 
Woody was obviously having a bad day. I think we've all had those, but I can understand what he's disillusioned about. There are so many around the forums these days that just want to kick a fella when he's down. I guess that's the mature thing to do around here these days.
Woody, keep a stiff upper lip and hang in there. This too shall pass.
Mike
 
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