Extraneous assets in downloads

[DDedicos]

I am new to Trainz 2022 and learning quite a bit through these forums. A longtime MSTS/Open Rails user, I’m taking it in slowly in expanding the number of routes I collect besides those that came with the game. My question is regarding downloading third party material for routes….especially when there are ‘packs’ that contain kuids that I need, but there are probably other assets in that pack that I don’t need. Is there a way to delete extra assets in these packs that are not needed, or is it simply a matter of having to take the whole .cdp file? My concern is using space for dependencies that I don’t need. Hope this makes sense, thanks in advance.

 

[ricomon35]

@DDedicos > Yes, there is.

Download CDP Explorer from here > https://github.com/SilverGreen93/CDPExplorer
Clik the green code tab and choose Zip file.

Open/extract/install the CDP Explorer app. WinRAR or similar will do it.
Open the cdp archive you downloaded for your route with CDP Explorer, search/find the kuid you want, extract as CDP.


Rico

 

[WestSideRailways]

The problem is that the route might need those dependencies , that you do not want.

in that case the route will not work..

 

[ricomon35]

The problem is that the route might need those dependencies , that you do not want.

in that case the route will not work..

Pretty sure the op is referring to large CDP packs like we get from sites like Jointed Rail, that have say 200 different container Trailers, but the route he is running only requires one of those 200.
Or say, a route, where you're missing 5 kuids that are inside a 1.5 gig CDP archive.

Rico

 

[DDedicos]

Pretty sure the op is referring to large CDP packs like we get from sites like Jointed Rail, that have say 200 different container Trailers, but the route he is running only requires one of those 200.
Or say, a route, where you're missing 5 kuids that are inside a 1.5 gig CDP archive.

Rico

That is my exact concern in this case! Unlike MSTS/Open Rails, there are several beautiful routes(maps?) that I would like to run, but it is a fact that you need to have several other routes and/or packs to have them work. Thank you, ricomon35, for the link...I'll give CDP Explorer a shot!

 

[JCitron]

That is my exact concern in this case! Unlike MSTS/Open Rails, there are several beautiful routes(maps?) that I would like to run, but it is a fact that you need to have several other routes and/or packs to have them work. Thank you, ricomon35, for the link...I'll give CDP Explorer a shot!

Welcome to Trainz. You'll become more and more addicted as time goes on. I came from the MSTS world nearly 21 years ago and I haven't left yet.

By all means, save the packs because there's a good chance you may need them later. As a rule, I save everything I download to an external backup drive. This has been a life saver when I've needed to reinstall content or have gone searching for assets for a new route.

In general, it's not uncommon to build up a huge library of assets with your data-folder reaching into the terabytes. Keep in mind that every edit you do, every asset that's updated or modified, is backed up first. These backups in addition to the assets installed will increase the size of your data-folder. The good news is the data-folder can be moved elsewhere to another hard drive and the backups can be managed.

 

[DDedicos]

Thanks for the welcome, I'm realizing that my one TB SSD will not be enough for future expansion. I'm still using MSTS/Open Rails and slowly adding my old routes from a previous machine. I'm creating mini-routes with the ones I keep, and again, an additional storage drive is in the future. I think I am going to like Trainz, just a matter of learning what's what!

 

[JCitron]

Thanks for the welcome, I'm realizing that my one TB SSD will not be enough for future expansion. I'm still using MSTS/Open Rails and slowly adding my old routes from a previous machine. I'm creating mini-routes with the ones I keep, and again, an additional storage drive is in the future. I think I am going to like Trainz, just a matter of learning what's what!

You're welcome. Feel free to ask as many questions as you want. There's a lot to Trainz; a lot more than people think. I recommend going through the tutorials if you haven't already, and trying some of the included routes to whet your appetite.

I recommend opening up a route or two you've downloaded, or one that's installed, and peek under the hood to see how everything is made in Surveyor which is used for both route and session editing. You can even modify these if you want. Trainz will automatically clone the route or session and give you the opportunity to name it.

 

[blueodessey]

Thanks for the welcome, I'm realizing that my one TB SSD will not be enough for future expansion. I'm still using MSTS/Open Rails and slowly adding my old routes from a previous machine. I'm creating mini-routes with the ones I keep, and again, an additional storage drive is in the future. I think I am going to like Trainz, just a matter of learning what's what!

I might add a little comment here,

Since 1970 Tandy 1000 Computers on up too today's Computers, one item that continually raises a problem, lack of Hard Drive Space, Lack of available Ram.

Currently Computer Companies like to you to purchase 1 Terabyte Hard Drives, 8 Gig of Ram, and Shared GPU's. Of course a fair amount of these systems might offer a tempting Sales Price that looks inviting. However for Gamers and Simulators reality does set in, as we accumulate items of interest.

As well, I need to add, with all the Graphic and Ray Tracing, PBR type assets other items take huge amounts of space.

Case in point, I had a ROG Strix computer 6 yrs old, NVidia 1080, lots of RAM 1 terabyte, come the 2-3 yr, I had to get 2 Tera Drives, as my computer supports 2 M-2 Slots. Great then, as of 1.5 years ago, I found my Hard Drives filled 90%. Life on the edge, what do I keep, what do I discard, and what goes to long term Storage on 5 Tera Bkup Drive.

Not only that, my poor old GPU which is Soldered to Mother Board, not replaceable.

CPU same, not interchangeable also soldered.

I need a new computer, found refurbished HP Victus 16" with 32 Gigs Ram, 8 Gig NVidia, and 1 Tera

Processor 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700HX 2.10 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.7 GB usable)
Device ID F7454A68-2367-470F-BEE4-88CE575C2074
Product ID 00342-21165-55937-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 GPU
Samsung SSD 990 PRO 4 TB (came with 1 drive used 1 Tera, bought 2 Samsung 990's and now have 8 Tera on dual M-2 slots.)


This Laptop was built 2023, approx, 1900-2200$, in looking over 30 some laptops, which were either 1500$ to 4500$ per my specs, I came across this at one of the Computer Stores I have shopped at for last 10yrs.

I continued looking at different Laptops, debating whether to get one with less RAM, smaller GPU Ram wise, or less SSD, I made the choice to get 32 GIG and 8 Gig GPU's why you ask, I had never had anything over 2 Gig GPU, and with all the problems I experienced with 2 Gig outdated GPU, I needed to take the leap, and for what it is worth. I understand, GPU come with more than 8 Gig. I'll be humble with what I have here! It is wonderful to finally able to use ULTRA settings in Graphics after 4 some years of compromising myself and being disappointed with FPS issues.

I hope I was not long here.