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socalwb909
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-This a really great thread you guys have over here! Prob. a great place to ask if trainz has anything out there thats close to the ATSF 3751?
-Joe
-Joe
There is one named "ATSF #3700" by Euphod but unfortunately it's built for TS2004. I have tried to update it but there is a problem with the bogeys, they keep going when the loco and tender have stopped. I have not had a chance to look at the bogeys yet to see if I can fix it. I suspect it might be the syntax in the bogey config file.
Cheers,
Bill69
JP_Quiggle
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Where did you get that Green Southern Loco in the first pic?heres some 4-8-4 in snowy Downtown City of The Wastelands.
I been trying to figure that out as well i Downloaded it today and i get no sound with changing the sound kuid
socalwb909
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-Thank you. I should of known that as I have payware from there! Maybe someday trainz will see the day with atsf 3751 in it!
-Joe
Welcome, In a a few i am going to mess around with it and try getting steam Soundz to work for it. ill post the details once i figure it out
socalwb909
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-That would be great Bob, but I wouldn't even know where to begin. I'm still a noob at modeling! Maybe someone will take up on this, to be the Trainz first!
-Joe
-Joe
I looked at every config and changed the sound and still the same result in the game no sound.....
Yes, ATSF 2929 4-8-4 from Trainzitalia - a nice steam loco and probably the closest you'll find to the 3751 (as rebuilt) in Trainz. Mrtrain's ATSF 2925 that's on the DLS definitely shows it's UTC vintage when compared to andrealuigi's No. 2929.
There are several problems with the steam sounds for this loco in Trainz if you are trying to run it in TS9 thru 12. To fix them you have to do the following:
1st) the config file for kuid:146153:292915 (main bogey) needs to be edited and have the direct-drive 1 tag added.
2nd) the animdist for kuid:146153:292915 (main bogey) is incorrect for TC3 and newer versions if you are running under CAB control mode. Contrary to what the Trainzdev Wiki says you cannot fix this for both DCC and CAB control with a simple config edit. The listed animdist tag needs to be changed from 5.325 to 6.3837 for CAB mode. The original number will work ok in DCC control mode but the wheels will turn way too fast in CAB control mode. This is due to a design feature in trainz that behaves like a bug that shows up under certain conditions. Unfortunately this bogey is one of them. You can't get this bogey to work correctly in both DCC and CAB mode unless you hexedit the anim.kin file or change the FPS setting in gmax (or max) and re-export the animation. The total number of frames is set to 37 and the fps is set to 30. For TC3 and newer the fps in this file has to be set to 36 for it to work. Very simple job to hexedit the anim.kin to change the fps setting if you know how. I've indicated the necessary part of the .kin file format in a post in another thread for those interested. (If the .kin file is edited to change the fps setting to 36 then an animdist of 6.3837 works correctly for both DCC and CAB modes).
3rd) enginesound asset referenced in the loco's config is for a 4-6-6-4 loco. In TRS4 and 6 it wasn't possible to get 8 exhaust cuffs from the game (without resorting to a custom loco script like the one I wrote for Ben Neal) so the sound files were usually fudged to try and get it. This was only partly sucessful. For the 4-8-4 which should have only 4 cuffs - well it's just not good. It needs an updated enginesound asset in anycase for TC3 and newer and there are several generic ones on the dls that will work correctly.
Not a sound problem but the enginespec is an old version and needs to be updated for TS9 thru 12 use. I'm not sure if there is a new one for the SP GS-4 on the dls or not - Bill Fock may have made one - I didn't check. It would be a fair substitute until a proper one is made.
Bob Pearson
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Yes, ATSF 2929 4-8-4 from Trainzitalia - a nice steam loco and probably the closest you'll find to the 3751 (as rebuilt) in Trainz. Mrtrain's ATSF 2925 that's on the DLS definitely shows it's UTC vintage when compared to andrealuigi's No. 2929.
There are several problems with the steam sounds for this loco in Trainz if you are trying to run it in TS9 thru 12. To fix them you have to do the following:
1st) the config file for kuid:146153:292915 (main bogey) needs to be edited and have the direct-drive 1 tag added.
2nd) the animdist for kuid:146153:292915 (main bogey) is incorrect for TC3 and newer versions if you are running under CAB control mode. Contrary to what the Trainzdev Wiki says you cannot fix this for both DCC and CAB control with a simple config edit. The listed animdist tag needs to be changed from 5.325 to 6.3837 for CAB mode. The original number will work ok in DCC control mode but the wheels will turn way too fast in CAB control mode. This is due to a design feature in trainz that behaves like a bug that shows up under certain conditions. Unfortunately this bogey is one of them. You can't get this bogey to work correctly in both DCC and CAB mode unless you hexedit the anim.kin file or change the FPS setting in gmax (or max) and re-export the animation. The total number of frames is set to 37 and the fps is set to 30. For TC3 and newer the fps in this file has to be set to 36 for it to work. Very simple job to hexedit the anim.kin to change the fps setting if you know how. I've indicated the necessary part of the .kin file format in a post in another thread for those interested. (If the .kin file is edited to change the fps setting to 36 then an animdist of 6.3837 works correctly for both DCC and CAB modes).
3rd) enginesound asset referenced in the loco's config is for a 4-6-6-4 loco. In TRS4 and 6 it wasn't possible to get 8 exhaust cuffs from the game (without resorting to a custom loco script like the one I wrote for Ben Neal) so the sound files were usually fudged to try and get it. This was only partly sucessful. For the 4-8-4 which should have only 4 cuffs - well it's just not good. It needs an updated enginesound asset in anycase for TC3 and newer and there are several generic ones on the dls that will work correctly.
Not a sound problem but the enginespec is an old version and needs to be updated for TS9 thru 12 use. I'm not sure if there is a new one for the SP GS-4 on the dls or not - Bill Fock may have made one - I didn't check. It would be a fair substitute until a proper one is made.
Bob Pearson
Yep Bob is dead right, the engine config has to be updated. He is also right with the anim-dist, that loco had 80inch drivers.
I have made an engine config for this loco using billegulla's spreadsheet. Billegulla's 2cyl engine sound kuid2:81997:53009:2 works well with it.
If anyone wants it I can send it to you if you give me your email address.
Cheers,
Bill69
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Thanks so much! just gave her a quick test and perfect!