East Broad Top Route

[cascaderailroad]

Looking for a good 36" NG caboose, Bendorsey has a few, and an EBT #2 ... are there any other cabeese ?

I have the 2 EBT types of hoppers, and a small selection of other 36" NG rolling stock.

Anyone know of any other 3' gauge assets ?

 

[cascaderailroad]

I add no filler, or fluff to a route ... like, trees, grass, textures .... Until the terrain is perfected !

Meticulous trackwork, curves, turnouts, and gradients, come first

EBT Orbisonia


Turntable is too small to hande EBT RR locos


Track type will be changed out at a later date

 

[normhart]

You might find some fun stuff here

http://www.trainzone.co.nz/ng.htm

or here

http://www.steammachine.com/slugsmasher/ss2_downloads_main.htm

 

[cascaderailroad]

I just can't wait to swap out this track for another 36", or 1000mm NG track ... I just hatez it !

I finished the south end of the Orbisonia yard also, and will post screenshots later.

 

[wreeder]

Here is the last printed Content Creation Guide before the wiki. It will give you a good foundation on how to get models into Trainz but you will have to reference the wiki to get up to TS12 standards.

http://www.animalomnibus.com/trainz/CCGTC.zip

William

 

[cascaderailroad]

What makes Bendorseys EBT turntable disjoin a track, when the turntable aligns to the track ... then the loco derails ?

 

[Bill69]

Hi CCRR,

There are some other turntables that do that if you are not very carefull. The trick is to make the terrain all around the turntable flat, then make sure all your track spline points that join the turntable are at exactly the same height as the turntable spline points before you join them.

Cheers,
Bill69

 

[cascaderailroad]

That seemed to do the trick ... I disjoined the track, and made them all the same heights ... and rejoined ... still a derailment.

I deleted the track ... laid a new track ... appled the height .... joined the track ... and it now works.

Thank you !

Screenshots will follow soon

 

[bendorsey]

If that TT & RH is the one I made for the EBT I can make a version with a larger diameter TT - just let me know what diameter you want.

 

[cascaderailroad]

It turns out that it does indeed handle the EBT #17 ... so it is A-OK in my book.

I probably will re-skin the bricks, and gravel a bit darker though ... it is missing the roll up doors ... but no biggie ... Thanks !

 

[bendorsey]

OK - (whew - I'm off the hook). Here is something weird - all of a sudden the enter key doesn't take me to the next line and spell check is always on. Any ideas as to what key or keys I accidently hit?

 

[bigboy4014]

It turns out that it does indeed handle the EBT #17 ... so it is A-OK in my book.

I probably will re-skin the bricks, and gravel a bit darker though ... it is missing the roll up doors ... but no biggie ... Thanks !

it's amazing the someone took the time to light this tunnel before takign the pic

 

[cascaderailroad]

The tunnels are unsafe ... never enter them ... besides risking a collapse, all kinds of ferocious wildlife may be inside, bear, badger, timber ratter, copperhead, skunk (aka: woods kitties).

These tunnels had just enough ceiling height to clear the locomotive smoke stack by mere inches.

The old tunnel in Galitzin Pa was cinder blocked shut, to keep explorers and wildlife out.

The Staple Bend tunnel (the 1st RR tunnel in the US) near Mineral Point Pa, is now a rails to trails bycycle path, you can ride through that dark tunnel, bring along a headlamp.




I apologize to Bendorsey ... The roundhouse roll up doors are there ... they are just hard to see

 

[bigboy4014]

wouldn't stop me in the least....if i get there i'm going in for as long as i can walk, i'll just don my midieval armor and my sword and my 12 gauge and say f*** you to the wildlife muahahahahahha

 

[cascaderailroad]

 

[bigboy4014]

I add no filler, or fluff to a route ... like, trees, grass, textures .... Until the terrain is perfected !

Meticulous trackwork, curves, turnouts, and gradients, come first

EBT Orbisonia

you know what cascade i'm enjoying the fact ha your taking your time making sure everything is perfects, and it brings joy to me to see someone who takes as much pride in this line as i do, but also this has at times been an extremely frustrating thing for me, due the the waiting suspence of the next CDP file on my computer although i'm telling you we need to lay down some textures on the whole line before you send it to me cause i swear the endless miles of grey drives me insane!

 

[cascaderailroad]

You can slather down a wide radius swath (scale set to minimum) of Forest1 or Forest_1 and get rid of the gray baseboards ... all my routes have gray basesboards ... until they have finished trackwork

 

[RPearson]

Mt Union:

Laying out the yards up here brings up the question of how to handle all the dual gauge track in the yards. I found a dual gauge track w/ standard and 3 foot track but of course it won't match the rest of the NG track. Also, the dual gauge on DS is a 4 rail dual gauge while the yards in Mt union were 3 rail dual gauge. I can't imagine all the dual gauge turnouts in the yard actually solving correctly in the game. Anyone have any experience with how the NG equipment handles the dual gauge track? I think I'll at least throw in the PRR main to the extent I imported DEM data for the area which is actually quite big. Enough to mess around with switching up there. Might keep the yards all NG w/ standard transfers here and there?

Still have a lot to do in this area alone obviously and then there's General Refractories and of course the Harbison-Walker Refractories further West. I think from the photos and track layouts I have of the area I'll just model Mt union as a bit of a "conglomerate" of the industries and trackage that existed up there. Even though a lot of it changed over the years.

EDIT> Just noticed the "MAN6 Dual Gauge Track" which looks like 3 rail. Says it's 2 track bridge spline made to look and "operate" like dual. I'll have to play around with that one.

There's a couple of ways to make dualgauge track. You can use "bridge track" with the bridge modeling all 3 rails and then using invisible track for the actual track the train follows. But all the problems with bridges are inherent with that method. I typically use the one model for the 3 rail track and ballast and set it up like a std spline track as if it were just the std gage track. Then lay a separate invisible track representing the ng centerline at 10.25" off the cl of the std gage. Since I'm an odd ball of sorts - I like to generate trk files seperately from cad dwgs - it easy to do once I make the dwgs. Manual placement in Trainz is difficult. In 2012 it got even more difficult since it's very difficult to select one of spline 2 points that are less than 1m apart. Fixed track may have some possibilities but I haven't worked with it yet. Typically it's good for turnouts on level ground or if rolled for a grade along one axis. If you go to extremes you could model the track at a specific location with different grades in both divergent tracks.

EBT 2 std gauge 0-6-0 switchers handled both sg and ng strings of cars (only 1 gage at a time). I don't know how we can do that in Trainz. They used two couplers on the pilot and tender beam aligned at correct height and centered over the respective track center. Obviously with some off center models and scripting trickery we could make it work as sg in 1 session and ng in the another. But to handle a string of std gage and then move a ng one right in front of us - I don't know how the transition would look like in realtime.

National Refactories - NARRCO the brick factory just north of the coal prep plant with the round ovens was one of EBT's main customer I believe.

Full dualtrack switches currently require 2 switch levers to operate. However several in the yard only switch dg to ng or dg to sg and thus only 1 lever is necessary. I figured I'd write a script to handle the full dg switches to work with a single lever but tthat hasn't happened yet. I currently need a lot of levers in mt union.

Bob Pearson

My maps usually have tiger lines on them but I only use then for general reference as most all the track is written into the trk files directly.

I modified Ben's roundhouse slightly to get the lead right.

 

[cascaderailroad]

There was a site (I think it is gone) that had lots of dual gauge track.

You could always superimpose a 3 ft NG track, sliding it under, and hiding it 0.001m under the SG track, as NG/SG Dual track shares one rail

 

[RPearson]

Yes, I think some people just use a 3rd rail and lay it separately over the std gage track. If you made the ng with just one rail and a marker for the other that shows only in surveyor perhaps it would be easier to get the right spacing. IIRC Zec used something like that. But I think his template was broken with TS2012. 8-( Spline points too close together or something. Amazing because it's surveyor that has problems - driver uses what's in the file and doesn't object - yet.

Bob Pearson


Hey just got a message that says my mailbox is full - I haven't checked it since Jan probably.