BR Beeching Era - Retrospective

Driver_Col

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Those of you that were around in the Beeching Era will no doubt remember the controversy and emotional reactions as Branch Line services were axed, the lines closed and numerous lovely little stations endured a rather undignified slow death. Here we are (well not me personally..... being in Canada), a little over half a century later, with a railway system that moves a lot of people around the country quite effectively (try using our VIA Rail service!).

So .......... was Beeching right? Did he actually have more foresight than we gave him credit for? How do you think BR would have ended up if those drastic cuts had not been implemented. I have read a number of excellent responses to various issues in this forum so I know that the interlect is out there! I await responses with interest.

Regards. Colin.
 
Hi,

Beeching was right - if you consider that the railways were osing a lot of money supporting a full rail service for a (comparatively) few people. The extensive local track was also a resource problem.

Unfrtunately, many samll communities have now lost any chance of being connected to the rail network - epecially in rural areas where the other public transport (busses) are now also running as a commercial enterprise. There's a number of towns/villages without much public transport (if any).

It always seems to be a balance of taxpayer subsidy against revenue.
Personally I think that where it wnet wrong was is selling off the track bed. Ok , the rails were lifted, but in many cases it's just not possible to relay the track - the land is now farmed or turned into housing estates so we can't reinstate the railway - even if the cost benefit changes.

Look as St Andrews (golf) - the railway line was lifted, the station turned into a car park, and the track bed sold (in places). Now it's a bus ride from Luchars - if the connections work. It's just possible that there would be demand for a rail link, but it's much harder to re-insatate it.

Regards,
Colin
 
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The branch line parts of the UK railway system were in serious decline from the 1920's; being unable to compete with motor buses and lorries for local traffic.
Dr Beeching may have prevented the huge losses being made by rural branch lines from bringing down the whole railway system in Britain although the price paid in terms of the loss of the picturesque was very high.
The only branch lines that survive now outside of major urban centres are in popular tourist areas (Settle & Carlisle, West Somerset, Severn Valley and so on) or the very few areas that still have significant heavy industry.

Regards

Chris
 
They lifted the avoiding line here in Lincoln, then built houses on the land.
Now they tell us, that with the increase in freight to Humberside, that it won't be long, before the crossing barriers
on the High St. will be closed to motorists for 50mins in every hour.
They also tell us that there isn't any money to finish the by-pass, and most of what is in place is only single carriageway. :(
 
At the time, without the benefit of hindsight, Beeching's actions were probably largely rational. At the time it was assumed that everyone would eventually drive everywhere, and that the railways would in time decline completely.

From the present day, some of Beechings closures seem rational, but the obsession with profitablilty led some well used, and only marginally loss-making lines to be closed, and torn up with undue haste. Ironically, many of the lines saved were the MOST loss making lines serving very remote regions of Wales and Scotland. These were left open as closing them would have caused undue hardship to the relatively few people living in these areas. Many of the closed lines lost much less than these.

It's also the case that many lines were closed based on the economics of running them with full signalling, staffed stations and steam haulage; the potential improvements from using diesel units and paying on the train were not fully explored in most cases. Also the contributiory effect of branch lines to the network, and the fact that some stations were more popular destinations than their ticket receipts would ever show (e.g Minehead) were never taken into account.

Ultimately, there are very many closed lines, that, if they had survived Beeching (and his successors), would now be busy and well used. Obviously all of the railway is now a drain on the public purse thanks to privatisation, so talk of profitability is a nonsense, but much of what was closed would have been a significant transport asset today.

Paul
 
With the current "ConLib" lot we have in power, we'll be lucky to have even the main lines left by 2015. They're probably dusting off the Serpell Report right now.

Ah maybe the "Big Society" will give us all the chance to volunteer as train drivers, after working until we drop for no pension.

Sorry, feeling very cynical and left wing this afternoon.

PS: Shouldn't this topic be in the "Prototype" section of the boards?
 
The same kind of system rationalizing took place across the pond as well. In the USA, the system was already privatized, but controlled through the government's ICC, and later the Surface Transportation Board (STB). In many cases, as probably happened in the United Kingdom, some lines were saved due to political pressures, while very important routes were hacked anyway.

The problem as we know, the US government was promoting thie interstate highway system, and letting support for the railroads dry up. They figured too that the trucking industry and private cars would out live trains. In the mean time, local governments were taxing the private railroad companies heavily. New Jersey, for example, put horrible tax pressures on the CNJ and EL, which was one of their reasons for bankruptcy.

Today, we too have rediscovered the value of having rail service, and many states have purchased the rights of way from the private companies. In my state, the local transit organization, Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority or MBTA, owns most of the trackage, and some abandoned ROW within the state borders.

This has preserved many lines that otherwise would have been lost to construction. Recently the old Greenbush line to Scituate was reopened after many years of closure. The NIMBYs in Hingham complained loudly, and got a tunnel put in, at everyone elses expense, but in the end the residents showed up with bands playing, balloons, and bands playing, and flags waving as the first passenger trains trundled over the line for the first time in 30 years.

At the moment, the state agency is working on reopening other Southshore lines including those to Fall River, and New Bedford. Again, they have to fight the NIMBYs in Easton and other towns, but in the end, the route will go back into service.

There are other lines too, that when closed by the railroad, were never to operate again. One of them is the old Central Mass line operated by the B&M. The track is extant as far as Hudson, MA; a bridge was taken out when a dam was built during the 1930s. Passenger service operated on the line right through the 1970s and early 1980s, but was stopped. Today this very crowded area sees no service. Every time the agency would look into restoring service, the residents of the wealthy towns of Lincoln, Subbury, and Weston, would come out in throngs to fight. They must have some kind of pull in the State House because the state can't even sell that portion of the line for a bike trail! So now this line has languished. Some outer areas have become bike trails, such as through Acton and out to Hudson, but other areas are weeded over rights of way.

John
 
Hi Guys - As expected, some very interesting and varied perspectives, While I can accept the "loss = closure" concept, I cannot help but wonder whether all the possibilities were explored thoroughly........ or whether it was really a case of the civil service paying "lip service" to a man who clearly had power. Having worked in the Public Sector for many years, I have seen the supposed "impartial" staff doing basically what was asked regardless of whether it made sense, or was even right. Politicians approach Senior Management who dictate to staff .......... who find it easier to "play along".

In the context of Beeching's BR, I often wonder whether the yardstick was the rather simplistic "no profit = no service"? If so, then it made a huge mistake by not considering "break even", or "profit lines can subsidize non-profit lines". Even the talk of profit in the context of a nationalized industry gives me a problem because (at least from my perspective) ......... I am paying for it!

Of course, as in all complex situations, there are no doubt many factors of which I am quite unaware, but I just remember those pretty branch lines ................. wistful thoughts.

Regards to all.

Colin.
 
Hi Everybody.
I apologize if readers of this posting have read parts of it before (prototypes, Scottish border argument) but I feel it is very relevant to the debate in this thread.

As stated, yes Dr Beaching was right to recommend to the government of the day the closure of large parts of the railway system. It was generally felt that the future of transport lay with the car due to its versatility and flexibility over public transport. Even after those closures took place I believe it was generally expected that it would not be long before the whole railway system in Britain was torn up with the exception of London and the surrounding area. Had anyone looked in detail at why that part of the railway system had to remain in being they would have seen evidence of what lay in store for the rest of the country with regard to road transport and perhaps acted differently.

However,that is an argument of the past, To take the debate one stage further, it is now realized there will always have to be in any advanced country going forward both rail and road transport. As I have said before on these forums I spent many years of my working life as a heavy goods vehicle driver before going on to become a health and safety officer in the same industry visiting various depots and Regional Distribution Centers all over England.

It was in the latter capacity that I started traveling whenever I could by rail. Now having extensive experience in both forms of travel I have become convinced of two things. Rail transport is the finest form of travel for human beings, whereas road transport is the best form of travel for freight.

Don't get me wrong railways have a growing role in freight transportation. However, it has to be faced that in many capacities it will never replace and cannot replace the hated heavy goods vehicle. As an example at a Regional Distribution Center I recently visited they received each night 18 trunk vehicles (vehicles that run from central warehousing to the Regional Distribution Center). Anyone can easily imagine that if you hitch all these vehicle together and put them on a railway you would have complete train.

Of course unless a railway it was laid directly into the central warehousing complex it would mean transporting the goods in containers to the nearest railhead, offloading, re-loading it onto the train, offloading it at the terminal railhead and transporting the containers to the Regional Distribution Center. The foregoing can be without doubt a time-consuming operation, but it can be done and is slowly being done.

However, the second part of the Regional Distribution Centers operation is to transport the products to large edge of town or town center retail stores. This part of the operation could never be done by rail as I do not think anyone can see a time when railways will run directly to Tesco or Marks & Spencer retail outlets. Therefore roads will always have to be maintained to such a standard that they can handle short journeys for both cars engaged in local journeys to retail outlets and the heavy vehicles that will supply them.

Where railways have an undoubted advantage over road transport is when it comes to moving large numbers of people over long and medium distances. From where I live in Somerset to the nearest big city (Bristol) is approximately 18 miles. Thousands of people throughout Somerset have to make this journey every working day. This creates huge traffic jams on the roads leading into Bristol and great frustration for the commuters stuck in their cars. The situation is the same in and around all big cities throughout Britain, but it can be changed with a reasonable level of investment.

As in Somerset all that is needed is investment in better rolling stock (more carriages on Trains) and more frequent services on lines. Train passengers unlike freight can look after themselves. A short drive to the nearest rail station is no hardship unlike the long car commute that these people often take. It has already been proven time and time again that each time you increase the frequency or coaches on the Trains the passenger numbers increase rapidly take up the new capacity.

Therefore I feel without any doubt, that despite the current financial situation in the country to continue investment in railways and especially the passenger transport aspect would have the benefit of relieving the roads of congestion therefore making it easier and cheaper for freight which has to go by road to become more efficient. This would be to the benefit of us all in cheaper prices and at the same time make a far better and greener life for many hundreds of thousands of people trapped in their cars for hours each week trying to negotiate the drudgery of the daily working commute.

Bill
 
Bill,

Again your hindsight and forethought bring an interesting perspective to the table. I think in general the railroads would have suffered if it weren't for the cuts made.

In part this has to do with the way we handle raw materials today. Railroads have proven their worth for longhaul and bulk materials, where as trucks are good for shorthaul, as you said. the shorthaul - point-to-point, and point-to-customer for quick turnaround is great for trucking.

Today's manufacturing and inventory models play a big part in this too. With Just In Time Manufacturing (JITM), and Just In Time Inventory (JITI), manufacturers no longer want to wait for goods, nor do they stock up on supplies. The accounting models made a big change in the valutation of inventory as well as work in progress (WIP), and finished goods. Today inventory is considered a liability most of the time, therefore manufacturers want to ditch it as fast as possible, meaning sell off finished goods, and keep supplies to the minimum.

In this scenario, there's no way railroads could handle this type of freight service. In part it's their high cost of infrastructure and labor to run very short trains with LTL services. This is why we see very little of this today, and why many branchlines have been abandoned.

In the USA, passengers were the first to be dumped before the freight on many lines. The railroads felt the big fancy varnish was costing too much money to run, and did what they could to discourage passengers including canceling schedules in mid-route, and running poorly maintained equipment. The dirty old trains that Amtrak picked up in the early 1970s shows what the railroads were doing to ditch passengers. They covered the passenger schedules only because th government said they had to. It didn't matter if the passengers couldn't see out a window, or froze in the winter, as long as the train ran.

Finally, when the short LTL traffic went, so did many of the branchlines unless they were saved by the local states or shortlines stepping in. This really didn't happen until 1980, or after the Staggers Act, which helped the railroads compete better with not only each other, but also with truckers. There were a few state agencies that had forethought, such as mine. The local transit agency, changed from just serving the metro-Boston area, to handling the core surrounding cities and towns, and now owns virtually all of the rights of way in the state. The MBTA maintains and owns the active commuter lines, and leases them back to the freight companies. This is more a less a win-win situation for both. This prevents the tracks from going to crud, and the freight companies have less maintenance costs. They only pay a rentel or lease fee for running the freight.

Today, we have a mess, no bones about it. There are many lines in many areas that should have remained. The Harlem Line, made famous in Trainz Classics 1, was cut short north of Wassaic in the 1950s or a bit later. Sadly the line is now a bike trail, and there's no way for rails to go in again particularly with the local opposition, which is just like I said in my previous post about Lincoln and Weston, MA. If the line had remained active, the commute into the city from this far north would have been easier. Many people from the area, now kick themselves for allowing the NYC to pull up the track, and the state for not stepping in to help. The main reason for the abandonment had to do with taxes. New York, like New Jersey, invoked very high taxes on the railroads, therefore the railroads abandoned their property when their business dropped enough to do so.

In our hindsight, we look back at what we had, but we have to remember that the heavy-hauling was done by horses on bad muddy roads. Today we have smoother (note the clarifyer - er) roads than were available during the Industrial Revolution and Steel Age. Our smoother roads allow for better freight handling, in particular of time-sensitive consumer goods, which was impossible less than a century ago.

John
 
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