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[Inda77]

Good Morning Inda77
From September 2010, we have ended support for TRS2006 and older (TRS2006, TRS2004, UTC (Trainz Ultimate Collection), Trainz 1.3) due to their age (5 years, and older - 8-9 years for UTC), and as such we no longer provide technical support for these editions, as well as support for any online function of these editions of Trainz software (including the download station). This was announced via our newsletter in mid September 2010.

As such, we will not be testing any changes/updates to the Download Station with unsupported editions of Trainz. In this case, you will need to access the download station via the DLS website, using the 'FTP' link on the 'download page' ( http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS.php ). However, please keep in mind that the specific method you will need to use to access the DLS in future may also change. If you do not have a registered version of a supported edition of Trainz in your account, then you will also require a First Class Ticket to be able to access the download station in future, and to be able to use the search functions on the Download Station website.

Please see the following for further information on the Trainz Life-Cycle Policy: http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/index.php5/Trainz_Life-Cycle_Policy

If you are experiencing issues with an unsupported edition of Trainz, then we would recommend that you try asking for assistance on our forums, which can be found here: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/

Thank you for your patience.

Zec Murphy

Customer Support Rep
N3V Games


Inda77

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Posted On: 19 Feb 2011 03:15 AM

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Thank you Zac,

So, just to be clear [because i did not receive septs newsletter] all access to trainz 2004 is now closed and defunct.
i will need to buy an upgrade game eg Trainz 2010, register that then i will be able to download as before.
how compatable is TR2010 with TR2004 or is it a whole new game and i have to loose all that i have made with TR2004.
or is it i pay for a first class ticket even though the game is registered and i can download TR2004 material.

please clarify as it does not make sense to me and i have to explain it to my son.

kind regards
chris.

 

[jmeinig]

Well, basically, you have an obsolete Trainz Version, so it is not supported by N3V anymore. Thus, you cannot use the DLS for free anymore. So, you have four choices: get a supported version ( TC and up), get a FCT, don't use the download station, and don't use the DLS and get third party content. The choice is yours.

 

[cascaderailroad]

If you have a low end PC ... 04/06 will still run great on it.

You need to buy an @ $19 USD one year FCT, (or a shorter time period), to download from the DLS.

I still have great fun with TRS2006 ... PM me if you need advice on running 04/06

If you have a higher end PC ... 09/10 needs a pretty good PC to run it on.

 

[Vern]

And as I have noted in a thread in Parts and Labour, even my new laptop cannot cope with TS2010 - so be wary if thinking of going the portable hardware route.

As regards access to the DLS, I note the OP mentions items he "made". Be aware that buying TS2010 and/or an FCT will give you access to download content into TRS2004/6 but it will not let you upload content created in TRS2006 or earlier as N3V/Auran are no longer accepting it.

The only workround is to build in TRS2006, transfer your work to TS2009 or 10 which updates the version and upload from there. (Or host your work on a third party site).

 

[JimDep]

I'm glad people that have gone through this are posting their findings. I was a little leery about some posts stating that 2009/10 will run well on older computers,when the increase in minimum hardware requirements of 2009/10 state otherwise. With the draw distance less than 1/2, 2006 runs ok on my 6 year old computer. That's the way it's gonna be for awhile. A least I feel validated.

I'm ok with not having a computer to run 2009/10, but not ok about being unable to upload all my 2006 content. That I wasn't expecting concerning a project I've been working on since 2005.

 

[cascaderailroad]

Alot of people distribule their 04/06 asset, or route as a CDP, or zip file, on Mediafire, or through E-Mail.

You could distibute your 04/06 route in the year 2020, or way beyond.

 

[JimDep]

That's not much of a comfort having over a thousand assets scattered over different 3rd party websites.

When I can afford to do so, I may considering putting my own page together and have it all in one spot.

 

[mezzoprezzo]

Alot of people distribule their 04/06 asset, or route as a CDP, or zip file, on Mediafire, or through E-Mail.

You could distibute your 04/06 route in the year 2020, or way beyond.

And there was me thinking I could only distribute assets!

I might well have a route finished by then – and get my gmax models into Trainz.

I learn something here every day.

Casper

 

[meatloaf747]

That's not much of a comfort having over a thousand assets scattered over different 3rd party websites. When I can afford to do so, I may considering putting my own page together and have it all in one spot.
I'm ok with not having a computer to run 2009/10, but not ok about being unable to upload all my 2006 content. That I wasn't expecting concerning a project I've been working on since 2005.

Hi Jim, If your 04/06 route that you have been working on for 6+ years (approx) has over a thousand assets scattered over different 3rd party websites, you probably wouldn't have wanted too, or been allowed to upload it to the DLS anyway !!!

That's always been a dilemma with Trainz. (non-DLS content). If I build a route, do I only ever download from the DLS so all the route contents is either "built-in" or on the "DLS" ???

Or do I download some of this incredible 3rd party content that isn't on the DLS, and then have the worry of somehow providing the links to the 3rd party sites so Trainzers can download the 3rd party content that's included in the route ???
If you have 1000+ non-DLS items from 3rd party sites in your route, that possibly 100's & 100's of links you would need to/should provide...

As the saying goes, "that just the nature of the beast" !!!

The only way round it as I see it, is having two of the same versions of Trainz installed on your PC. One that you only use DLS content and build your routes in. - The other you "only run" your trainz in and install all your DLS & non-DLS content in.

That way, if you upload a route, it only has built-in & DLS contents in it...

Cheers, Mac...

 

[JimDep]

Hi Jim, If your 04/06 route that you have been working on for 6+ years (approx) has over a thousand assets scattered over different 3rd party websites, you probably wouldn't have wanted too, or been allowed to upload it to the DLS anyway !!!

That's always been a dilemma with Trainz. (non-DLS content). If I build a route, do I only ever download from the DLS so all the route contents is either "built-in" or on the "DLS" ???

Or do I download some of this incredible 3rd party content that isn't on the DLS, and then have the worry of somehow providing the links to the 3rd party sites so Trainzers can download the 3rd party content that's included in the route ???
If you have 1000+ non-DLS items from 3rd party sites in your route, that possibly 100's & 100's of links you would need to/should provide...

As the saying goes, "that just the nature of the beast" !!!

The only way round it as I see it, is having two of the same versions of Trainz installed on your PC. One that you only use DLS content and build your routes in. - The other you "only run" your trainz in and install all your DLS & non-DLS content in.

That way, if you upload a route, it only has built-in & DLS contents in it...

Cheers, Mac...

You bring up an important point that I wasn't sure how to tackle. Even if I could have met the Sept. 2010 deadline for uploading 2006 content, it would have clogged up the DLS anyway.

Sometime in 2005, I started a prototype route by using DLS content just as a reference while laying all the track over a roughly 70 x 30 mile region. Once I had the master route done, I went back and divided it into sections that were of more reasonable size. During this time I also started creating prototype structures, track, roads etc from hundreds of photos taken on location.

After getting the content organized I started uploading when the notice was given that 2006 content wouldn't be accepted after the September 2010 deadline. Also at the same time, some content that I had uploaded just previously mysteriously disappeared, never showing up on the DLS, and this was still months before the deadline. I figured with the amount of content I already had, plus the hassle of content disappearing, there was no way I was going to meet the deadline on top of health problems including another surgery recovery over the summer.

Without the content to go with the route, the route loses too much authenticity for what it's intended to represent. Anyway, I think a personal web site to present it properly will be the way to go.

 

[SuperFudd]

It is my belief that a layout created in TRS2004 will run better in TS2009 (and perhaps TS2010 though I don't have it) on the same PC. The PC specs "required" for TS20XX are higher because TS20XX stuff needs a better PC.

 

[cascaderailroad]

What is TS20XX ...X being the roman numeral 10 ... When is TS2020 due out ? Should be: TS MMX

http://www.weplan.com/romannumeral.htm

 

[Retro00064]

Hi every one,

One of the best places to upload content for TRS2006 and earlier is the TrainzProRoutes Download Depot, at http://www.trainzproroutes.com/downloads/. This place has been open for years, and has a large roster of content for TRS2006 and earlier, which is being added to somewhat frequently (from what it seems to me ).

That would probably be one of the best places to upload such content. It is free to join.

Regards.

 

[Vern]

Don't forget a TRS2006 route hosted on an external website, but which has 100% dependencies from the DLS, can still be opened in CMP for users to download those assets - provided they have a newer version or a FCT as per N3V new regulations.

 

[SuperFudd]

As for XX, the only TSs so far are 09 and 10. By using XX I am refering to both. I supose I could have used **.

 

[ray_whiley]

In the UK at least, 45xx would refer to any member of a class of locomotives whose number begins with 45 (this was a class of GWR tank engines). So TSxx would mean any version of TS now and in the future - just replacing the xx with the year number. Is this loco numbering system not used elsewhere?

Ray

 

[cascaderailroad]

I think my GF (Girtty) is a 45XX :hehe:

TSXX would be TS20

TSXX might also mean: TrainSimulator is for mature audiences, but is not quite as risque as TSXXX

TSXXX might be a yummy hearty Tasmanian-Malt Liquor ?

Maybe TS_ _ _ _ would be more proper.

You would never see on a proper resume the wording: "I drove the 45XX locomotive class" ; as the Kings English would be "The Class 45".

I can think of nowhere where the XX , ** is acceptably used by any railroad ... except for @#$%&*! swearing

Perhaps "XX" is a new fangled "eubonics", or a laxidasial way of typing, or texting, not using the English language, by using Alt Symbols ? Either that or your keypad number keys are missing or numerals are unreadable, or worn off.

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