Beginning of the End
- Thread starter Kris94
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No there are plenty of other users that have caused trouble on forum besides you. Reminds me of the time when NewYorkCentral uploaded a bunch of payware and not his freeware to his site. Wow so many memories on these forums.
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Kris
Maybe I'm lost here, but what is so bad? We're all trying to help you here, but you won't take any friendly advice whatsoever. You tend to think that they're personal attacks when most are just trying to help. If it's over the UP thing, then just get over it. You're not going to get everyone to agree with you and you really need to learn some things about how businesses run and how they make their decisions. It's their money, not yours, to spend as they see fit and hopefully, produce some dividends for their stockholders. They don't run their business as a hobby or for the benefit of railfans. So just chill a little, take a deep breath and we can learn to all be friends. Even friends can disagree from time to time.
Mike
Maybe I'm lost here, but what is so bad? We're all trying to help you here, but you won't take any friendly advice whatsoever. You tend to think that they're personal attacks when most are just trying to help. If it's over the UP thing, then just get over it. You're not going to get everyone to agree with you and you really need to learn some things about how businesses run and how they make their decisions. It's their money, not yours, to spend as they see fit and hopefully, produce some dividends for their stockholders. They don't run their business as a hobby or for the benefit of railfans. So just chill a little, take a deep breath and we can learn to all be friends. Even friends can disagree from time to time.
Mike
cascaderailroad
New member
Just run a train ... that's what the hobby is all about ... and offering assistance to other Trainzers through the forum.
Well, as the old saying goes. Today is the first day of the rest of your life, so just lick your wounds and move forward. Maturity means learning from mistakes and not repeating them. We're here to help, but we can't help unless you're willing. It starts with you, so the decision is yours.
Mike
Mike
Can't help you much there other than to tell you to do what all responsible people do when they want something. Get out and earn the money. It'll make you appreciate it much more when you've bought something with money that you actually had to work for. That's what I've always had to do as I'm sure that most people also have to do. It seems that we now live in a society that has lost it's patience. Everyone wants it now and aren't willing to work and save for what they want. When I want something, I work, earn some money and save.
illinoiscentral
SARM Volunteer
Allow me to share some words that I received from the great Ron (aardvark1), who recently left our presence.
He offered these words when I was going to leave the forum a few years ago, in the midst of my immature actions.
"Young Woody, there's no need to leave. Though feelings are easily hurt, we are trying to teach you to look at the bigger picture and to have some consideration."
Something close to that.
In your case, the mission us older members take for members like you is simple. Through constructive advice, sometimes it may seem harsh, we want to teach you the broader picture of the hobby.
How to look at the business side of railroading, the important factors thereof.
I have been in the railfanning community for a long time. Too many people end up being whiny, immature "foamers". In no way do I, or anyone else not like you. Its a matter of, at least I personally, don't want to see you become yet another one of the ignorant ones. The ones who refuse to learn. The ones you find standing next to tracks screaming cuss words at every GEVO they see. Those people. You may know of them.
Some of the stuff you said in your last thread was comparable to that type of person. You basically let on that you wanted it YOUR way, which I and several others came to let you know, that's not reality.
Its better to embrace reality than deny it and attempt to live in your own fantasy. I'll be clear, if I lived in my fantasy, CN would never re-paint a single IC unit, they'd never have even bought them. That's not reality though.
So back to the gist of what our friend Ron was trying to say...
He basically had one purpose behind that post. He was telling me to look at things from a mature and well educated point of view. Sitting around yelling hatred for UP won't get you anywhere, it won't bring back the SP. So, rather, you do the best thing possible. Spend some time on RRPictureArchives.net enjoying the old photos of the SP, or look it up on YouTube. If you have a chance to see a SP unit in action, don't pass it up. When I was younger, I was bullied for my love of trains. Therefore, in fear I sat at home and never railfanned. I missed the greatest years CN had, and ever will have. I gave up WC SD45's, IC SD40-2's, IC GP38's, DM&IR SD40-T2's, the whole deal. I missed that. I regret it everyday, and thats the truth. Don't end up like that. Get them while you can. Its that simple. Get involved in a museum or something, I did. Today, I happily work on an IC GP11 and the first SD40 ever built, IC #6071. I may have missed the IC's running the main, but I have the next best thing, maybe even better. I work on them.
So...don't say you suck. You don't. Don't even mention autism. The more you tell yourself its a problem, the worse it will be. I have ADHD, I don't mention it much. Its not a dis-ability, its just a challenge that makes me stronger in life.
You're in one of the best hobby communities around, don't give up. Take correction, embrace it, come out of the learning experience a better person.
That's what Ron wanted for me, and I did my best to do it.
Cheers,
Woody
He offered these words when I was going to leave the forum a few years ago, in the midst of my immature actions.
"Young Woody, there's no need to leave. Though feelings are easily hurt, we are trying to teach you to look at the bigger picture and to have some consideration."
Something close to that.
In your case, the mission us older members take for members like you is simple. Through constructive advice, sometimes it may seem harsh, we want to teach you the broader picture of the hobby.
How to look at the business side of railroading, the important factors thereof.
I have been in the railfanning community for a long time. Too many people end up being whiny, immature "foamers". In no way do I, or anyone else not like you. Its a matter of, at least I personally, don't want to see you become yet another one of the ignorant ones. The ones who refuse to learn. The ones you find standing next to tracks screaming cuss words at every GEVO they see. Those people. You may know of them.
Some of the stuff you said in your last thread was comparable to that type of person. You basically let on that you wanted it YOUR way, which I and several others came to let you know, that's not reality.
Its better to embrace reality than deny it and attempt to live in your own fantasy. I'll be clear, if I lived in my fantasy, CN would never re-paint a single IC unit, they'd never have even bought them. That's not reality though.
So back to the gist of what our friend Ron was trying to say...
He basically had one purpose behind that post. He was telling me to look at things from a mature and well educated point of view. Sitting around yelling hatred for UP won't get you anywhere, it won't bring back the SP. So, rather, you do the best thing possible. Spend some time on RRPictureArchives.net enjoying the old photos of the SP, or look it up on YouTube. If you have a chance to see a SP unit in action, don't pass it up. When I was younger, I was bullied for my love of trains. Therefore, in fear I sat at home and never railfanned. I missed the greatest years CN had, and ever will have. I gave up WC SD45's, IC SD40-2's, IC GP38's, DM&IR SD40-T2's, the whole deal. I missed that. I regret it everyday, and thats the truth. Don't end up like that. Get them while you can. Its that simple. Get involved in a museum or something, I did. Today, I happily work on an IC GP11 and the first SD40 ever built, IC #6071. I may have missed the IC's running the main, but I have the next best thing, maybe even better. I work on them.
So...don't say you suck. You don't. Don't even mention autism. The more you tell yourself its a problem, the worse it will be. I have ADHD, I don't mention it much. Its not a dis-ability, its just a challenge that makes me stronger in life.
You're in one of the best hobby communities around, don't give up. Take correction, embrace it, come out of the learning experience a better person.
That's what Ron wanted for me, and I did my best to do it.
Cheers,
Woody
Stagefright
Joined Feb 21, 2001
Well and truly stated, Woody.
I've been with Trainz for over a decade. I've been frustrated because I do not have the talent/artistic ability/patience to develop routes or create (or even reskin) items. I recently realized that very few of us possess these abilities. I understand and accept the fact that others can do thing I cannot or will not.
Over the years I've spent many, many happy hours running Trainz, getting my virtual people to work on time and delivering make-believe goods to where I deem they go.
Some are artists or writers or poets or musicians. I simply sit in the audience and enjoy the performance. One does not have to be a musician to love music.
Darrel
