johnwhelan
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Should be interesting to see how it performs with TANE.
Cheerio John
Cheerio John
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AMD R9 series has been announced
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LNERlover5
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The R9 300 series cards are simply rebrands of the R9 200 series of cards. Nothing special here, pricing will dictate success.
The real attention grabber is the Radeon Fury lineup. Not to be confused with the R7 and R9 cards, this is something more akin to the GTX Titan X. The switch from GDDR5 to High Bandwidth Memory which is stacked on the GPU die means we get significantly increased memory bandwidth (640GB/s vs 320GB/s on the R9 290X) as well as a significantly smaller footprint (See the Radeon Fury Nano) The Radeon Fury X might be one to watch, never mind the 4096 stream processing units... With an RRP of $649, a liquid cooler as reference and performance to allegedly beat the 980TI and Titan X. This could be very interesting, but we will need to wait for benchmarks.
Jack
The real attention grabber is the Radeon Fury lineup. Not to be confused with the R7 and R9 cards, this is something more akin to the GTX Titan X. The switch from GDDR5 to High Bandwidth Memory which is stacked on the GPU die means we get significantly increased memory bandwidth (640GB/s vs 320GB/s on the R9 290X) as well as a significantly smaller footprint (See the Radeon Fury Nano) The Radeon Fury X might be one to watch, never mind the 4096 stream processing units... With an RRP of $649, a liquid cooler as reference and performance to allegedly beat the 980TI and Titan X. This could be very interesting, but we will need to wait for benchmarks.
Jack
johnwhelan
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Not true - The architecture is totally different.........
to clarify
"AMD Introduces Radeon R9 Fury Series Graphics Cards With Fiji GPUs" these cards have a very different memory access and considerably better performance per watt than the older AMD cards. What I found interesting was the idea of you could set the max frame rate and the card would adjust power consumption etc to fit.
Now all we need to do is see how much of TANE is pure directX 11 and how much is customised. If it pure directX 11 then we should be fine.
Cheerio John
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LNERlover5
Average Grad
Not true - The architecture is totally different.........
Only the Fiji based cards (Radeon Fury, Fury Nano and Fury X) are new. The R7 360 through R9 390X are in fact refreshed variants of previous GPU's. The 7870 became the R9 270X, and seemingly will now become the R7 370 for example. The differences will be slightly improved performance per watt, combined with larger memory options.
Jack
johnwhelan
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Only the Fiji based cards (Radeon Fury, Fury Nano and Fury X) are new. The R7 360 through R9 390X are in fact refreshed variants of previous GPU's. The 7870 became the R9 270X, and seemingly will now become the R7 370 for example. The differences will be slightly improved performance per watt, combined with larger memory options.
Jack
>They feature 1.5x the performance per watt over the R9 290X, and heaps more performance.
1.5x isn't too bad, I haven't seen anything about larger memory options I think for the moment its wait and see time rather than dash out a buy a new GPU.
Cheerio John
LNERlover5
Average Grad
Reviews and pricing are appearing as of now. An OC3D review places the R9 390X typically in the region between the GTX 980 and GTX 980Ti depending on the game and resolution.
An R9 390 8GB can be had for roughly £270 on sites such as overclockers.co.uk. Considering that it may only be marginally slower than the R9 390X before overclocking, this could be an absolute steal. I'm even tempted...
Jack
An R9 390 8GB can be had for roughly £270 on sites such as overclockers.co.uk. Considering that it may only be marginally slower than the R9 390X before overclocking, this could be an absolute steal. I'm even tempted...
Jack
Yep, if I had the funds for it and new power supply it would be very tempting:
NewEgg just listed it today and a MUST for T:ANE - 4GB Minimum and 8GB Better with less power consumption.......
Worth the gamble to switch to AMD from Nvidia with this........
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127874
NewEgg just listed it today and a MUST for T:ANE - 4GB Minimum and 8GB Better with less power consumption.......
Worth the gamble to switch to AMD from Nvidia with this........
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127874
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I was curious even though I can't afford it, I contacted MicroCenter and talked to a guy I know who is also a Graphics Designer.......
He told me straight up this rebranded card for the most part but not 100% at 8gb and 512 bus will be not be off benefit unless your doing multiple monitor at atleast 1440 resolution or 4k resolution......
Future use this may be a beneficial choice and less chance of another upgrade, but unlike to be utilized at its potential at this time and the 8GB versus 4 or 6GB with Nvidia is more than likely not as much of a benefit as one may initially assume a means to regain market share they have loss. He said I'd be better of with the 970 FTW at the compared price point...........
I also learned Newegg is selling these temporarily as a loss pricing promotion to have sales generation.......
So if your looking at the R9 390 @ $329 this is a steal and you need to act fast........
Microcenter can not match Newegg because they paid $40 more to put on the shelf than that of the Newegg Price.
Microcenter's price is $409 plus sales tax ON SALE and cost to travel and get so tack that on as well or high shipping costs..
Only great benefit is a return policy unlike Newegg's Replacement Only Policy so buyer beware...........
MicroCenter is the ONLY brick and mortar store to have this card and the Asus brand is coming in next week........
This card requires a minimum 750 Gold power supply but this gentleman is an avid fan of ATI/AMD for 15 years and says to at minimum have a 850 watt or better 1000 watt for potential crossfire but recommends crossfire at 1200 watts.....
He told me straight up this rebranded card for the most part but not 100% at 8gb and 512 bus will be not be off benefit unless your doing multiple monitor at atleast 1440 resolution or 4k resolution......
Future use this may be a beneficial choice and less chance of another upgrade, but unlike to be utilized at its potential at this time and the 8GB versus 4 or 6GB with Nvidia is more than likely not as much of a benefit as one may initially assume a means to regain market share they have loss. He said I'd be better of with the 970 FTW at the compared price point...........
I also learned Newegg is selling these temporarily as a loss pricing promotion to have sales generation.......
So if your looking at the R9 390 @ $329 this is a steal and you need to act fast........
Microcenter can not match Newegg because they paid $40 more to put on the shelf than that of the Newegg Price.
Microcenter's price is $409 plus sales tax ON SALE and cost to travel and get so tack that on as well or high shipping costs..
Only great benefit is a return policy unlike Newegg's Replacement Only Policy so buyer beware...........
MicroCenter is the ONLY brick and mortar store to have this card and the Asus brand is coming in next week........
This card requires a minimum 750 Gold power supply but this gentleman is an avid fan of ATI/AMD for 15 years and says to at minimum have a 850 watt or better 1000 watt for potential crossfire but recommends crossfire at 1200 watts.....
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They are to a degree but they are really becoming over priced...........
Due to car repairs that could not be completed, my refund returned so I put on reserve a R9 390 MSI thru Microcenter.........
You're right about Power Consumption and when I finally found limited benchmark information here before driving 2.5 hours one way and saw 293watts gaming consumption, holy moly..........
I am truly convinced after reading this even at the phenomenal price under mfg cost I got it from a Brick and Mortar cause I have connection to MicroCenter's Corporate Store, I think I am holding off and putting the refund back for emergency car repairs as way more important..... PSU @ 850G2 I just don't think is adequate given the efficiency curves and power consumption and they are out of the PSU I really want to be able to run this card...........
These early benchmarks with I believe not great drivers and optimized drives show the 8GB Vram is not beneficial until you go to 1440 or 4K resolution which I am doing neither of anytime soon......
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-radeon-r9-390x-gaming-8g-oc-review,1.html
Due to car repairs that could not be completed, my refund returned so I put on reserve a R9 390 MSI thru Microcenter.........
You're right about Power Consumption and when I finally found limited benchmark information here before driving 2.5 hours one way and saw 293watts gaming consumption, holy moly..........
I am truly convinced after reading this even at the phenomenal price under mfg cost I got it from a Brick and Mortar cause I have connection to MicroCenter's Corporate Store, I think I am holding off and putting the refund back for emergency car repairs as way more important..... PSU @ 850G2 I just don't think is adequate given the efficiency curves and power consumption and they are out of the PSU I really want to be able to run this card...........
These early benchmarks with I believe not great drivers and optimized drives show the 8GB Vram is not beneficial until you go to 1440 or 4K resolution which I am doing neither of anytime soon......
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-radeon-r9-390x-gaming-8g-oc-review,1.html
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The latest video card no matter who they are made by have ALWAYS been WAY over priced on release and generally over the first 2 years of life, then they finally think they have drained all the blood they can get at that level and lower price slightly.
Agreed, but I made a deal with MicroCenter to do a Review and my prices is equal to a R9 290X
I ran a benchmark with 3Dmark Firestorm and I was getting FPS of 12 during combination testing - I get less in the C&O Hinton Route - LOL
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5160113
I can return for a full refund so I am going to gamble but this better knock my socks off, heck my whole wardrobe for the investment........
Review and Benchmark in a couple of days maybe...........
Primarily getting it to improve performance with TS12 to be straight honest and do hd3d without addition required expensive software from Nvidia....... Not worried about T:ANE
Rumor is GPU Manufacturing is being sold of by AMD which is NOT GOOD NEWS.......
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Agreed, but I made a deal with MicroCenter to do a Review and my prices is equal to a R9 290X
I ran a benchmark with 3Dmark Firestorm and I was getting FPS of 12 during combination testing - I get less in the C&O Hinton Route - LOL
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5160113
I can return for a full refund so I am going to gamble but this better knock my socks off, heck my whole wardrobe for the investment........
Review and Benchmark in a couple of days maybe...........
Primarily getting it to improve performance with TS12 to be straight honest and do hd3d without addition required expensive software from Nvidia....... Not worried about T:ANE
Rumor is GPU Manufacturing is being sold of by AMD which is NOT GOOD NEWS.......
This might be one of the times that it might be worth while to see what all is included with Windows 10, seeing some of what they are placing in the new o/s over the last 6-9 months has provided some surprises.
Myself I will never return to a Radeon card much more satisfied with any Nvidia card. But that is personal opinion after too many years to remember of operating with both types of cards. I pay the excess needed for the Nvidia card.
3dMark Demo with the R9 390 Installed and Disk Drivers which I need to find the Beta Drivers for but exhausted........
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7440222
UPDATE
Different Driver I Scored 8692 in test just now........Stock Voltages on Everything...
This card does not shine until you do 1440 (2K) or 3890 (4K) Resolution.... Not the 390X Either
Someone I know with a 980TI and a FX9570 I believed scored a 9500 Range..........
PRETTY IMPRESSIVE FOR $300 Price Point...........
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7440222
UPDATE
Different Driver I Scored 8692 in test just now........Stock Voltages on Everything...
This card does not shine until you do 1440 (2K) or 3890 (4K) Resolution.... Not the 390X Either
Someone I know with a 980TI and a FX9570 I believed scored a 9500 Range..........
PRETTY IMPRESSIVE FOR $300 Price Point...........
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This video card with the C&O Hinton with a different driver I found on Guru3D, my frame rates from Fraps (miss the Nvidia Display) is 45 to 53FPS and depending upon speed and area @ 50mph drops to 35-37FPS
6000m Draw
Shadow Low
Scenery Normal
Texture Normal
Water Low
Post Processing High
My Benchmarks should be much higher but I am going to bed...........
This card should be producing in fast motion travel upwards of 55 to 60fps based on my research at 1080p, so I definitely say this has a lot of graphics optimizations needing to be found and heavily worked on........
Beats My Nvidia 660 GTX @ 9 to 12 FPS not moving really fast........
6000m Draw
Shadow Low
Scenery Normal
Texture Normal
Water Low
Post Processing High
My Benchmarks should be much higher but I am going to bed...........
This card should be producing in fast motion travel upwards of 55 to 60fps based on my research at 1080p, so I definitely say this has a lot of graphics optimizations needing to be found and heavily worked on........
Beats My Nvidia 660 GTX @ 9 to 12 FPS not moving really fast........
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