I have TR09 and I download them via CMP+
------Just copy/paste his name in CMP+ and his items will be displayed! :wave:
Ish
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I have TR09 and I download them via CMP+
------Just copy/paste his name in CMP+ and his items will be displayed! :wave:
Ish
I did that and it shows up as unknown location, and cannot be downloaded because of that.
acelejalde
Urban Transit Developers
New Sign
I'm experimenting with a new type of sign for my layout. Haven't decided whether or not I'm going to include this in the released route yet.
My issue is...there are a million and one different readings for these signs at 468 different subway stations . Since it's a static object--I don't want to make 468 copies, lol. And I don't want you to either!
One option would be to do each sign in sections, like how the above sign would be applicable for all s/b platforms on the Astoria line.
However, once in Manhattan where there are 20+ subway routes, it can get tricky.
I could try getting a script to make the bullets and text changeable...but that'd be a huge undertaking.
What should I do? I would very much value your input!
-A
P.S. The sign is 18" high, by 8 feet wide, spaced out every 75' or so. I measured this for a B Div platform (200 meters), so there are 8 of these signs along the entire length of the platform.
I'm experimenting with a new type of sign for my layout. Haven't decided whether or not I'm going to include this in the released route yet.
My issue is...there are a million and one different readings for these signs at 468 different subway stations . Since it's a static object--I don't want to make 468 copies, lol. And I don't want you to either!
One option would be to do each sign in sections, like how the above sign would be applicable for all s/b platforms on the Astoria line.
However, once in Manhattan where there are 20+ subway routes, it can get tricky.
I could try getting a script to make the bullets and text changeable...but that'd be a huge undertaking.
What should I do? I would very much value your input!
-A
P.S. The sign is 18" high, by 8 feet wide, spaced out every 75' or so. I measured this for a B Div platform (200 meters), so there are 8 of these signs along the entire length of the platform.
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acelejalde
Urban Transit Developers
I suppose I will have to learn how to script because I have no idea how to do that lol
Hey A,
Raised in the South Bronx, and taken the MTA in my youth, since I now live in Florida, I can see the issues here -- many many signs -- However, to be honest, go for it -- what do you have to loose but time, and you can always stop and rest, and come back to it since no one is paying you a paycheck for these things!:wave:
My suggestions -- for example, the 6 line which starts at Pelham and ends at Brooklyn bridge ... first do the sign and save with a kuids ex: XXXXX:20000 .. (this is your first sign) ... then edit that sign (reskin) in phototshop or whatever you use and save it in another folder xxxx:20001 and so . etc ... its time consuming, but at least you will get what you're looking forward, etc! and honestly, actually, it'll be faster then what you think ... in a week, if you put a couple of hours in a day you can really get things done quickly --
It's the same system I use when mass producing items, for example the Chicago system -- all I change is the kuids and the number, ex 000,001, 002, etc etc ... the config file (99%) doesn't change!
That's the best advice I can give good friend! :wave:
Ishie
Raised in the South Bronx, and taken the MTA in my youth, since I now live in Florida, I can see the issues here -- many many signs -- However, to be honest, go for it -- what do you have to loose but time, and you can always stop and rest, and come back to it since no one is paying you a paycheck for these things!:wave:
My suggestions -- for example, the 6 line which starts at Pelham and ends at Brooklyn bridge ... first do the sign and save with a kuids ex: XXXXX:20000 .. (this is your first sign) ... then edit that sign (reskin) in phototshop or whatever you use and save it in another folder xxxx:20001 and so . etc ... its time consuming, but at least you will get what you're looking forward, etc! and honestly, actually, it'll be faster then what you think ... in a week, if you put a couple of hours in a day you can really get things done quickly --
It's the same system I use when mass producing items, for example the Chicago system -- all I change is the kuids and the number, ex 000,001, 002, etc etc ... the config file (99%) doesn't change!
That's the best advice I can give good friend! :wave:
Ishie
acelejalde
Urban Transit Developers
Maybe I could do this!
Thanks for the encouragement Ish. I just mapped out the system in sections (i.e. how the "L" line will use the same platform sign from Canarsie to Bedford Av, and another from 1st Av-8th Av), and I will start working on the signs tonight. Most of them are pretty straight forward, for lines like the 1, G, L, 7. The least amount of signs a line will have would be four. In the L example, you'd have one sign in each direction (2 signs), and 2 different sections (Canarsie-Bedford; 1st-8th Avs).
And since some lines run on the same track (the M & R between 36th St & Forest Hills), that reduces the number of signs needed because you're killing two birds with one stone by having multiple lines sharing one sign! So, the overall number of signs actually shouldn't be that many with multiple two- and three-line sections using the same platforms. (C/E, A/D, 2/5, F/G, M/R, N/Q, B/Q, 2/3, B/D, etc).
-A :wave:
Thanks for the encouragement Ish. I just mapped out the system in sections (i.e. how the "L" line will use the same platform sign from Canarsie to Bedford Av, and another from 1st Av-8th Av), and I will start working on the signs tonight. Most of them are pretty straight forward, for lines like the 1, G, L, 7. The least amount of signs a line will have would be four. In the L example, you'd have one sign in each direction (2 signs), and 2 different sections (Canarsie-Bedford; 1st-8th Avs).
And since some lines run on the same track (the M & R between 36th St & Forest Hills), that reduces the number of signs needed because you're killing two birds with one stone by having multiple lines sharing one sign! So, the overall number of signs actually shouldn't be that many with multiple two- and three-line sections using the same platforms. (C/E, A/D, 2/5, F/G, M/R, N/Q, B/Q, 2/3, B/D, etc).
-A :wave:
acelejalde
Urban Transit Developers
Excellent A -- You'll see how far in progress you will have those signs!!
Tomorrow will be my last post til a month or so, so I'll get to see some screenies when I get back! :wave:
Ish
I forgot to wish you good luck and a speedy recovery! :wave: You will be missed around here, my friend!
Btw, the following is a list of the sections for signs (each section will have 2 signs for each direction). Please make any suggestions or corrections if I've missed anything! Terminals will only have one sign since there's only one direction.
A DIVISION-
(1)- 242 St; 238-103 St; 96 St-Rector;South Ferry. 6 signs
(2)- 241 St; 238 St-E 180 St [shares w/ 5]; Tremont Av-149 St [shares w/ 5]; 135 St-110 St [shares w/ 3]; 96 St-Wall St [shares w/ 3]; Clark-Franklin [shares w/ 3]; President St-Newkirk;Flatbush [shares w/ 5]. 14 signs
(3)- 148 St;145 St; (between 135 St & Franklin Av, shares w/ 2. see above); Nostrand Av-Pennsylvania Av;New Lots. 6 signs
(4)- Woodlawn;Mosholu-161 St; 149 St (local & exp); 138 St (shares w/ 5); 125 St-Brooklyn Br [shares w/ 5]; Fulton-Bowling Green [shares w/ 5]; Boro Hall-Franklin Av [shares w/ 5]; Utica Avenue. 13 signs
(5)- Dyre Av;Baychester-E 180 St; (White Plains branch shares w/ 2); (E 180 St-149 St, shares w/ 2); (138 St; 125 St-BB, share w/ 4); (Fulton-Bowling Green, Boro Hall-Franklin, share w/ 4); President-Flatbush (share w/ 2). 3 signs
(6)- Pelham Bay Park; Zerega-Parkchester; Parkchester-E 138 St (locals); Express <6> signs: 138 St, Hunts Point; 125 St-Canal St; Brooklyn Br. 12 signs
(7)- Main St (local & exp); Willets Point (local & exp); 111 St-Vernon Jackson (local); Junction Blvd; 61 St; Grand Central-5 Av; Times Sq 13 signs
(S) 42 St- One sign each for Times Square & Grand Central. 2 signs
B DIVISION- (oh boy....lol :hehe
(A)- 207 St; 200 St-175 St; 168 St; 145 St-59 St (share w/ D); 42 St-Canal St; Chambers-Fulton (share w/ C); High St-Hoyt (share w/ C); Nostrand-Euclid; Grant-Rockaway; 104 St-111 St; Lefferts; Conduit-Broad Channel; Beach 90-Beach 105; Beach 116; Beach 67-Beach 25; Mott Av. 28 signs
(B)- Bedford Park; Kingsbridge-155 St; (share w/ D LOCALS); 145 St; 135-59 (share w/ C); 7 Av (share w/ D); Rockefeller-Grand St (share w/ D); DeKalb; Atlantic-Sheepshead; Brighton Beach (share w/ Q). I'm making this simple and ignoring the Brighton construction with regards to the signs. 16 signs
(C)- 168 St; 163-155; (145-59 share w/B); 50 St; 42 St-Canal (share w/ E); (Chambers-Hoyt, share w/ A); Lafayette-Shepherd; Euclid. 10 signs
(D)- 205 St; (Bedford Park-155 St LOCAL shares w/ B); Bedford Pk (exp); Kingsbridge; Tremont; 145 St; (125-59 share w/ A); (7 Av-Grand St, share w/ B), Pacific-36 St (share w/ N); 9 Av-Bay 50 St; Coney Island. 14 signs
(E)-Parsons; Sutphin-Van Wyck; Union-71 Av (share w/ F); Queens Plaza; Ely-5 Av (share w/ M); 7 Av; 50 St; (42-Canal w/ C); WTC. 14 signs
(F)-179 St; 169 St-75 Av; (71-Roosevelt w/ E); 21 St-Roosevelt Island; 57 St;Rockefeller-B'way/Lafayette (w/ M); 2 Av-E Bway; York-Jay; Bergen-Church (w/G); Ditmas-W 8th; Coney Island. 18 signs
(G)- Court Sq; 21 St; Greenpoint-Hoyt; (Bergen-Church w/ F). 5 signs
(J)(Z)- Parsons; Sutphin-121 St; 111-Cypress (J); Crescent-Kosciuszko (J); Myrtle-Marcy (w/M); Essex (w/M); Bowery-Fulton; Broad. Because of the skip/stop beginning at 104 St, there will be 4 signs per section instead of two (one for J in each direction, and one for J/Z in each direction)18 signs
(L)- Canarsie; 105 St-Bedford; 1 Av-6 Av; 8 Av. 6 signs
(M)-Middle Village; Fresh Pond-Central; (Myrtle-Essex w/ JZ); (B'way/Lafayette-Rockefeller w/M); (5 Av-Ely Av w/E); Queens Plaza; 36 St-67 Av (w/R); 71 Av. 8 signs
(N)- Ditmars; Astoria-Queensboro (w/Q); Lex-5 Av (w/ NQ); 57 St-Prince (w/R); Canal; (Pacific-36 St w/D); 59 St; 8 Av-86 St; Coney Island.14 signs
(Q)- (Ditmars-5 Av, w/ NQ & R), 57 St-14 St; (Canal w/ N); DeKalb Av; (Atlantic/Sheepshead w/ B); Brighton Beach-W 8; Coney Island. 7 signs
(R)- (71 Av-36 St w/M); Queens Plaza; (Lex-5 Av w/ NQ); 57 St-Prince St; Canal-Whitehall; Court-DeKalb; Pacific-59 St; Bay Ridge-86 St; 95 St. 13 signs
(S) Franklin- One sign each for Fulton St, Prospect Park & Park Place, 2 signs for Botanic Gardens. 5 signs
(S) Rockaway- Broad Channel; Beach 90-105; Beach 116 St. 4 signs
Phew. To make things easier I will release them in sections by route, so the first one to come up will be the (1) & (S) 42 St b/c the IRT is easier and can get done quicker!
-A
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Retro00064
New member
Anthony,
The script for the BART mileposts follows the concepts that a script to make the text on your station sign changable would. It is possible. Provided with the appropriate details, such as the number of text spaces and lines of text supported therein, I could help you on that one also, if you want.
My knowledge of the Java programming language has probably gone a long way toward me getting the hand of Auran GameScript. Auran did release the "User Activity Creation Guide" in TRS2004 that contains the documentation on GameScript, but it is probably only really helpful for those who already have some knowledge of a similar programming language, such as Java, C, C++, C#, etc. Learning the syntax and keywords of languages such as those willgo a long way toward helping you to learn GameScript, and then the Auran documentation will take you the rest of the way toward learning the specific features of GameScript.
Regards.
The script for the BART mileposts follows the concepts that a script to make the text on your station sign changable would. It is possible. Provided with the appropriate details, such as the number of text spaces and lines of text supported therein, I could help you on that one also, if you want.
My knowledge of the Java programming language has probably gone a long way toward me getting the hand of Auran GameScript. Auran did release the "User Activity Creation Guide" in TRS2004 that contains the documentation on GameScript, but it is probably only really helpful for those who already have some knowledge of a similar programming language, such as Java, C, C++, C#, etc. Learning the syntax and keywords of languages such as those willgo a long way toward helping you to learn GameScript, and then the Auran documentation will take you the rest of the way toward learning the specific features of GameScript.
Regards.
acelejalde
Urban Transit Developers
WIP
Just some screenshots of a subway station-- WIP. Not sure if I'll release this and make part of a larger a spline pack or not. BStyles seems to be doing a spectacularly fantastic job, as well as Strain on NYCTF. I just wanted to see if I could actually do it--this is my first station ever. I mean, ever in history.
Enjoy!
-A
Just some screenshots of a subway station-- WIP. Not sure if I'll release this and make part of a larger a spline pack or not. BStyles seems to be doing a spectacularly fantastic job, as well as Strain on NYCTF. I just wanted to see if I could actually do it--this is my first station ever. I mean, ever in history.
Enjoy!
-A
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acelejalde
Urban Transit Developers
Progress Update
Progress Update Map as of 3 April 2011. Work on Jamaica/Myrtle els, Crosstown (G) and Canarsie-bound (L).
Next in line for construction: (1) to 137 St (& Yard), (2) to 135 St Junction, to the foot of the Harlem River, (3) to 148 St & Yard.
Progress Update Map as of 3 April 2011. Work on Jamaica/Myrtle els, Crosstown (G) and Canarsie-bound (L).
Next in line for construction: (1) to 137 St (& Yard), (2) to 135 St Junction, to the foot of the Harlem River, (3) to 148 St & Yard.
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I forgot to wish you good luck and a speedy recovery! :wave: You will be missed around here, my friend!
Btw, the following is a list of the sections for signs (each section will have 2 signs for each direction). Please make any suggestions or corrections if I've missed anything! Terminals will only have one sign since there's only one direction.
A DIVISION-
(1)- 242 St; 238-103 St; 96 St-Rector;South Ferry. 6 signs
(2)- 241 St; 238 St-E 180 St [shares w/ 5]; Tremont Av-149 St [shares w/ 5]; 135 St-110 St [shares w/ 3]; 96 St-Wall St [shares w/ 3]; Clark-Franklin [shares w/ 3]; President St-Newkirk;Flatbush [shares w/ 5]. 14 signs
(3)- 148 St;145 St; (between 135 St & Franklin Av, shares w/ 2. see above); Nostrand Av-Pennsylvania Av;New Lots. 6 signs
(4)- Woodlawn;Mosholu-161 St; 149 St (local & exp); 138 St (shares w/ 5); 125 St-Brooklyn Br [shares w/ 5]; Fulton-Bowling Green [shares w/ 5]; Boro Hall-Franklin Av [shares w/ 5]; Utica Avenue. 13 signs
(5)- Dyre Av;Baychester-E 180 St; (White Plains branch shares w/ 2); (E 180 St-149 St, shares w/ 2); (138 St; 125 St-BB, share w/ 4); (Fulton-Bowling Green, Boro Hall-Franklin, share w/ 4); President-Flatbush (share w/ 2). 3 signs
(6)- Pelham Bay Park; Zerega-Parkchester; Parkchester-E 138 St (locals); Express <6> signs: 138 St, Hunts Point; 125 St-Canal St; Brooklyn Br. 12 signs
(7)- Main St (local & exp); Willets Point (local & exp); 111 St-Vernon Jackson (local); Junction Blvd; 61 St; Grand Central-5 Av; Times Sq 13 signs
(S) 42 St- One sign each for Times Square & Grand Central. 2 signs
B DIVISION- (oh boy....lol :hehe
(A)- 207 St; 200 St-175 St; 168 St; 145 St-59 St (share w/ D); 42 St-Canal St; Chambers-Fulton (share w/ C); High St-Hoyt (share w/ C); Nostrand-Euclid; Grant-Rockaway; 104 St-111 St; Lefferts; Conduit-Broad Channel; Beach 90-Beach 105; Beach 116; Beach 67-Beach 25; Mott Av. 28 signs
(B)- Bedford Park; Kingsbridge-155 St; (share w/ D LOCALS); 145 St; 135-59 (share w/ C); 7 Av (share w/ D); Rockefeller-Grand St (share w/ D); DeKalb; Atlantic-Sheepshead; Brighton Beach (share w/ Q). I'm making this simple and ignoring the Brighton construction with regards to the signs. 16 signs
(C)- 168 St; 163-155; (145-59 share w/B); 50 St; 42 St-Canal (share w/ E); (Chambers-Hoyt, share w/ A); Lafayette-Shepherd; Euclid. 10 signs
(D)- 205 St; (Bedford Park-155 St LOCAL shares w/ B); Bedford Pk (exp); Kingsbridge; Tremont; 145 St; (125-59 share w/ A); (7 Av-Grand St, share w/ B), Pacific-36 St (share w/ N); 9 Av-Bay 50 St; Coney Island. 14 signs
(E)-Parsons; Sutphin-Van Wyck; Union-71 Av (share w/ F); Queens Plaza; Ely-5 Av (share w/ M); 7 Av; 50 St; (42-Canal w/ C); WTC. 14 signs
(F)-179 St; 169 St-75 Av; (71-Roosevelt w/ E); 21 St-Roosevelt Island; 57 St;Rockefeller-B'way/Lafayette (w/ M); 2 Av-E Bway; York-Jay; Bergen-Church (w/G); Ditmas-W 8th; Coney Island. 18 signs
(G)- Court Sq; 21 St; Greenpoint-Hoyt; (Bergen-Church w/ F). 5 signs
(J)(Z)- Parsons; Sutphin-121 St; 111-Cypress (J); Crescent-Kosciuszko (J); Myrtle-Marcy (w/M); Essex (w/M); Bowery-Fulton; Broad. Because of the skip/stop beginning at 104 St, there will be 4 signs per section instead of two (one for J in each direction, and one for J/Z in each direction)18 signs
(L)- Canarsie; 105 St-Bedford; 1 Av-6 Av; 8 Av. 6 signs
(M)-Middle Village; Fresh Pond-Central; (Myrtle-Essex w/ JZ); (B'way/Lafayette-Rockefeller w/M); (5 Av-Ely Av w/E); Queens Plaza; 36 St-67 Av (w/R); 71 Av. 8 signs
(N)- Ditmars; Astoria-Queensboro (w/Q); Lex-5 Av (w/ NQ); 57 St-Prince (w/R); Canal; (Pacific-36 St w/D); 59 St; 8 Av-86 St; Coney Island.14 signs
(Q)- (Ditmars-5 Av, w/ NQ & R), 57 St-14 St; (Canal w/ N); DeKalb Av; (Atlantic/Sheepshead w/ B); Brighton Beach-W 8; Coney Island. 7 signs
(R)- (71 Av-36 St w/M); Queens Plaza; (Lex-5 Av w/ NQ); 57 St-Prince St; Canal-Whitehall; Court-DeKalb; Pacific-59 St; Bay Ridge-86 St; 95 St. 13 signs
(S) Franklin- One sign each for Fulton St, Prospect Park & Park Place, 2 signs for Botanic Gardens. 5 signs
(S) Rockaway- Broad Channel; Beach 90-105; Beach 116 St. 4 signs
Phew. To make things easier I will release them in sections by route, so the first one to come up will be the (1) & (S) 42 St b/c the IRT is easier and can get done quicker!
-A
Quite a list, A ... !!!
I must agree also -- one section at a time is the best route -- My Desert map has taken me 4 years, on and off to complete, and yet it's 85% complete -- I have modeled it after the Razorback map. Anyhow, you have a decision now, that someone is willing to help you out with a script!
For me, I have always avoid working with scripts because one little thing is all that it takes to throw everything out of wack; Plu,s Auran lovessss changing the rules every time a new product comes out. For example, spline will work differently in TR12, in other words, the script rule will change! My opinion only - better to do it the long way, then using a script, however, learned how to make the script if you're willing -- it's always better to know both ways, especailly that someone is willing to give you a hand with that!:wave:
On the stations, very excellent -- make them night mode, tho -- :hehe:
I'll check later tonight before I leave for a month or so -- thanks for the kind words on that issue!!!
Ishie
acelejalde
Urban Transit Developers
There will be more screens tonight Ish--showing off the fantastic work you've done on your elevated set! It has turned my route from great to fantastic! :hehe:
Hey A,
Won't be able to see those pictures --
I'll see them when I get back -- Happy Trainzing :wave:
Ishie
acelejalde
Urban Transit Developers
Subway Station Pack
Hey All--
Just wanted to let everyone know that BStyles & I are collaborating on a subway station pack for Trainz. They will consist of platform splines, end pieces, stair pieces, etc.
Below are the configurations that we will use, drawn by me.
And now, the progress on #01 on the list.
Some Notes:
06- Essex/Delancey
09- 34 St/Penn & Atlantic Av
10- 59 St/Columbus Circle
11- 135 St/St. Nicholas
12- DeKalb Avenue
13- Hoyt-Schermerhorn
14- Can be used for 145 St/Broadway, & Astor Place through Spring Street on the 6.
Enjoy!
-A
P.S. Before anyone asks, there is NO definite release date. When they are nearing completion, we will let everyone know, so please don't hassle.
Hey All--
Just wanted to let everyone know that BStyles & I are collaborating on a subway station pack for Trainz. They will consist of platform splines, end pieces, stair pieces, etc.
Below are the configurations that we will use, drawn by me.
And now, the progress on #01 on the list.
Some Notes:
06- Essex/Delancey
09- 34 St/Penn & Atlantic Av
10- 59 St/Columbus Circle
11- 135 St/St. Nicholas
12- DeKalb Avenue
13- Hoyt-Schermerhorn
14- Can be used for 145 St/Broadway, & Astor Place through Spring Street on the 6.
Enjoy!
-A
P.S. Before anyone asks, there is NO definite release date. When they are nearing completion, we will let everyone know, so please don't hassle.
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