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By the way I’m running TS2010 on two gaming setups one with an ATI 5870 and one with an Nvidia GTX 285. I don’t have any problems running the game on either setup.
I do kind of like the fact that Auran chose to support OpenGL though, since that potentially would allow Trainz to run on non-Windows platforms.
OpenGl gets updated every five years the latest standard is openGL 3.0 which no one is talking about because its full of support for very old junk. Cheerio John
Actually the latest version is the just released OpenGL 4.0 spec –
http://www.opengl.org/
It would seem unlikely that TS2010 uses it though as it came out before the spec. It was the requirement to keep in legacy stuff that killed OpenGL 3.0 I wonder what has happened with openGL 4.
Cheerio John
My 3 month old Dell Studio XPS 8000 (see below) for ~$900 incuding tax work VERY well with TS2009. The current version is the slightly modified 8100.
On this PC, DirectX has a higher frame rate but the apearance of the water suffers.
Come on...Tell me that these off the shelf moderately high end Laptops will not run Trainz ? ? ?
$699-HP-Intel Core i3-330, 14" Screen, 4Gb Memory, 320 Gb Hard drive, Windows 7
$679-Toshiba-AMD Turion II Ultra Daul Core, 17.3" Screen, 4Gb Memory, 500Gb, Hard Drive, Windows 7
$899-HP-Intel Core i7-720, 15.6" Screen, 4Gb Memory, 320Gb Hard Drive, 1Gb Dedicated Graphics Memory, Windows 7
$779-HP-Intel Core i3, 16" Screen, 4Gb DDR3 Memory, 500Gb Hard Drive, Windows 7
$1249-HP-Intel Core i7-720,17" Screen, 6Gb Memory, 640Gb Hard Drive, 1Gb Dedicated Graphics Memory, Windows 7
And if you get them through a New Yoark' mail order house...the price is Much cheaper !
Perhaps I had forgotten that this is not a Trainz Information Thread about general PC's for everyone wanting to run Trainz...and is a: "What John wants thread". But you are leading those wanting a laptop to run Trainz with, that they need a $2500-$4000 PC, which they don't. Extremely Pricey High End gaming Laptops can Crash too ! And causes even more tears when they are corrupted :'(
In case your PC crash's...back up all your important assets as CDP's, and store them on an External Hard Drive, Memory stick, or RW-DVD.
Good god I just don't think you understand what John wants.
Look at this way I drive a bog standard Ford Fiesta to work, its all I can afford. But If I could afford an Aston Martin DB9 then I'd ditch the Ford in a heartbeat. The Aston will still get me to work, and in rush hour traffic in pretty much the same time. So why want an Aston Martin. Choice, and because its better, even if I am limited by traffic and law to a top speed of 60mph (70 on motorways/dual carriageways).
When I go food shopping I buy the more expensive Walkers Salted Crisps, but wait a min, the supermarket own brand are cheaper and do exactly the same thing, that is fill the hole in my stomach.
Much like the computers you've listed will run Trainz John is exercising his right to choice, his choice to go with ECC memory so he can further avoid data corruption in memory, unlike the computers you have listed. Like John when Brought my new computer last year I went top end spec. Way more than what is needed to run Trainz.
his choice to go with ECC memory so he can further avoid data corruption in memory
MS Flight Sim X and X-Plane. Of course I had to run 'em for checkout. Max settings on Trainz (2006)ran without a hiccup. Really nice. Flight Sim X same thing. X-Plane at max settings
ECC memory, lol.
The only users who absolutely need ECC memory are those who use the machine for “mission critical” work, certainly not for running games or for performance applications.
Not to mention that ECC does cause a performance hit to begin with.
Here is an example of some of the highest performing memory you can get for the currently highest performing chipset from Intel, the X58 -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170147%2050001504%201052345114%201052429371&name=DDR3%201600%20%28PC3%2012800%29
See any mention of ECC, of course not.
The obvious solution to this would be to have a system setup for “mission critical” work and one setup for gaming.
With the misconceptions going back and forth here I suggest you start doing some research in a real hardware forum.
So your suggestion would be two systems. Well its an idea and thank you for your input but I run both Blender and Trainz, one is more critical ie more demanding of ecc memory than the other, both can eat any hardware you throw at it. I think it could be cheaper to just have one system than two expensive ones. Besides if I'm running ecc memory I avoid minor glitches in Trainz that could happen from a memory cell flipping over.
Cheerio John
Out of curiosity do you do your taxs on your computer? pay bills? or hold information that you make decisions on? I assume you don't mind paying some one the wrong amount or paying to much or too little tax?
I know more than a few graphic artists that depend on a computer for their livelihoods. Not one of them I know is using ECC memory or has ever made ECC memory use a decision breaker when specifying components for a new machine. They are more concerned with storage solution failure (hard drive) then a “memory cell flipping over” and that’s why they regularly back up their work just like everyone else that is concerned with data loss.
Again I don’t use my gaming setups for any “mission critical” work. They are strictly for gaming that’s it.
By the way out of all the machines I have used for “mission critical” work, not one of them has ever used ECC memory.
If we are still keying of Trainz, ECC is worse than a waste of money.
Of laptops for Trainz (or any other PC), DO get one with dedicated video memory.