surveyor problems

when im makin a layout on utc surveyor after a while a fatal error occurs and i cant save my work ive tryed reinstalling my trainz and updateing it but it doesent work im using directx beacause open gl has grafic problems because it starts flashin then bits of the layout and letters disapears.

Tell us about your computer.

dell

dell ispiron 2650 32mb dedicated grafics card (nvidia geforce2) 512mb of ram and all updated drivers the error is a violation in render3dcore.dll

billt304 said:

dell ispiron 2650 32mb dedicated grafics card (nvidia geforce2) 512mb of ram and all updated drivers the error is a violation in render3dcore.dll

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Might want to install new video drivers?

32MB on the video card may not be enough. Geforce2 should be sorta OK. I ran UTC on a 128MB Geforce2 and it was a bit of a bottle neck on my system (See below) but it worked.
I would bet you need to update your video card driver.
What CPU do you have? You have enough system RAM.

Lo_Poly said:

Might want to install new video drivers?

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i have already done that

Have you read the For anyone who has bought UTC thread?

Have you tried asking your question in the Ultimate Trainz Support forum?

Can you post the following from running a dxdiag (Start>Run>dxdiag)

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: DF253A-ABA A250N
BIOS: BIOS Date: 08/27/04 11:09:23 Ver: 08.00.09
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 515MB used, 1945MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6600
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9371 (English)
Description: Realtek AC97 Audio
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.6160 (English)

HTH

Dave

it wont let me veiw that utc buyers thread and im not allowed to post attachments

it wont let me veiw that utc buyers thread

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Then you'll need to send a messege to helpdesk then.

im not allowed to post attachments

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Ok

1) Click on Start>run>dxdiag
2) Click on Save all Information
3) Save it to your desktop
4) Click Exit
5) Double-click the Dxdiag.txt to open it.
6) Find the lines mentioned above and copy and paste them into a new reply.

HTH

Dave

Time of this report: 1/24/2007, 19:50:17
Machine name: JOES-LAPTOP
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
System Model: Inspiron 2650
BIOS: PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0.
Processor: Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 1.70GHz
Memory: 510MB RAM
Page File: 327MB used, 919MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit UnicodeCard name: Dell 2650
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce2 Go
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0112&SUBSYS_00F31028&REV_B2
Display Memory: 32.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4482 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/24/2003 17:32:00, 3343051 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 6/24/2003 18:32:00, 1326203 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4252-11CF-1A62-F92013C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0112
SubSys ID: 0x00F31028
Revision ID: 0x00B2
Revision ID: 0x00B2
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.Description: Intel(r) Integrated Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2485&SUBSYS_00F31028&REV_02
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ac97intc.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.3523 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 8/17/2001 12:20:04, 96256 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xB5B
Min/Max Sample Rate: 48000, 48000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

Description: Modem #0 Line Playback (emulated)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID:
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 81
Type: Emulated
Driver Name:
Driver Version:
Driver Attributes:
WHQL Logo'd:
Date and Size:
Other Files:
Driver Provider:
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

here is the link to my dxdiag filehttp://rapidshare.com/files/13214455/DxDiag.txt.html

Is it true that your video driver is more than 3 years old?
I see that your 32m video RAM is "shared" with system RAM. Never a good thing.
Your CPU is fast enough.

yes it may be 4 years old beacause my laptop is 4 years old but the problem is a acess voilation in render3dcore.dll

im allowed to have a new laptop in 2 years if i can look after this one beacuse this s my 1st one inv got a desktop but the graphics are even worse and its intergrated

Have you tried installing a newer driver for your graphics card?

Plus IIRC Auran doesn't support Trainz running on laptops.

HTH

Dave

ive already got the latest drivers for everythig

OK lets get this straight, you said your driver is the latest

i have already done that

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but the diag shows this:

Driver Date/Size: 6/24/2003 17:32:00, 3343051 bytes

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And then you said it may be out of date

yes it may be 4 years old beacause my laptop is 4 years old but the problem is a acess voilation in render3dcore.dll

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Then in your last post you say the driver is the latest.

What is the real answer?

Andy

i have got all the latest drivers fo my laptop

OK, still seems odd that it said you didn't, without being patronising... maybe check again.

If not I'm afraid I can't help.

Andy

billt304 said:

im allowed to have a new laptop in 2 years if i can look after this one beacuse this s my 1st one inv got a desktop but the graphics are even worse and its intergrated

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If your desktop has a processor running @ 1.5 gig or above, it may be worthwhile fitting it with a graphics card if you have an AGP slot or even a spare PCI slot.
I run UTC with an Athlon 2gig chip & an Gforce 6200 graphics card.

The 6200 cards can be bought for as little as £40 from Ebuyer.

Kev.