What firestorm is doing here has nothing to do with RRMods, even if its him speaking here its does not mean he is speaking out for everyone. Firestorm was head of PR when we had a special group that helped out with site but that is over now. We too at RRMods feel embarrassed about what is happening currently here in this forum but we don't have the power to stop it, we did what we could about it by basically getting rid of Mikelj001 and firestorm. The sd80mac we released was not released to retaliate against JR in any way, Joe was working on it for over a month and it happened to of gotten finished yesterday with extremley bad timing as Justin shown his own model that same day. If you want to believe it is up to your own opinion but thats the way it is. We were trying to make better ties with JR but due to some misfortune events that tie has collapsed. So away with the arguing and lets get this topic back on track and not locked and i would like to see some screenshots too. Nice shot Mike!