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TreinspotterJeffrey said:

Hello,

I am new here but have been following this thread for a while. After a lot of hassle I can finally post something. There was a problem on my account that prevented me from writing messages on this thread. Anyway, I hope to make friends here with people who have the same interest as me: Japanese train(z). I just created a website through Wix. There are already 4 repaints of Japanese trains, such as the E257-2000 (W.I.P.).

Here is the link:
https://jeffreyrackels.wixsite.com/sanyoj


Keep in mind that the site is new and that a lot still needs to change.

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Glad it worked out in the end and that you can post now and welcome!

Jdriver said:

So I wanted to share a video of some melodies of the Shinkansen. Some you may heard before and some you might not heard before

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Speaking of which... could anybody make these as a whistle/bell. Like a whistle as a shinkansen horn and the meoldy being that certain Shinkansen.?

rowletmaster said:

Speaking of which... could anybody make these as a whistle/bell. Like a whistle as a shinkansen horn and the meoldy being that certain Shinkansen.?

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Ok, i'll do a few of them in the next weeks. Do you need a few particular ones or can i chose whatever i like?

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Anyway, here are some new trains: The Tokyu 2000 and 9000 Serieses, made using my older Tokyu 1000 Series 3D models as base!



From left to right: Toyoko Line 9000 Series, Denentoshi Line 2000 Series, Oimachi Line 9000, 2000 and 9020 Serieses and the Kodomonokuni Line's 9000 Series. Not pictured are the Toyoko Line 2000 Series and the Oimachi Line 9000 Series Set 9007 in the standard red livery.

As of now, they can be directly downloaded from *HERE*, they will soon be avaible on my website too.
All the necessary dependencies are either included in the package or are avaible on the DLS. Dependencies not made by me belong to their respective authors.

Important Note:
These trains use a new, more realistic, enginespec, designed to replace my old and frankly awful "32 Notches enginespec". This new enginespec is designed to be used in cab mode and fetaures, among other things, istantaneous brake application and release and realistical accelleration with no wheelslip.
Unfortunately, i've come across an issue with the train's soundscript: the inverter sound may play twice or even keep playing in a loop instead of playing just once when the train starts as it should. I still don't know if the problem is caused by the new enginespec or by the script (i'm using Rizky_Adiputra's "KuHa205") itself. I've tried to solve the problem for two entire days as of now, with no result. To add to my frustration, it appears that even all my older trains using the same script (such as the 209-500 Series reskins or the TRTA 6000 Series) are now having the same problem.
Again, i don't know if the problem is caused by the script or the enginespec, furhtemore, i don't even know if it's a problem of the asset itself or just it doesn't want to work on my computer alone.
I'd ask those downloading the pack to give me a bit of feedback wether if the problem persists even on their trainz version or just on mine.



Anyway...

The Tokyu 9000 Series was introduced in 1986 to replace the last remaining 18m-long stock (the 7000 and 7200 Serieses) in service on the Toyoko Line (with the exception of sets assigned to inter-running services with the TRTA Hibiya Line wich, due to loading gauge issues, had to keep the old 18m-long trains).

The new 9000 Series was revolutionary in many ways: it was one of the first major orders for inverter-controlled rolling stock (earlier, in 1983, Tokyu had tested Hitachi-made inverter control equipment on a withdrawn 6000 Series car), and was also Tokyu Corporation's first train with an asymmetrical cab design, far more comfortable for drivers and conductors alike, instead of the old and relatively cramped "symmetrical" cab design of previous trains.
The 9000 Series was also designed to be as cheap and fast to be manufactured as possible, hence the simplicistic box-like shape. The lightened stainless steel construction of the 9000 Series was also based on it's predecessor: the unlucky 8090 and 8590 Serieses.

A pre-series set, 9001F was completed in 1985 (with the manufacturer being obviously Tokyu Corporation's own Tokyu Car Co.) and entered service on the 9th of March 1986. Follwoing the good results of this first set, mass-production of the 9000 Series began in 1987 and ended in 1991 after 117 cars were made.

These 117 cars formed fourteen 8-car sets for the Toyoko Line, assigned to Motosumiyoshi Depot, and a lone 5-car set (9007F) for the Oimachi Line (to replace old stock on that line too), wich had assigned to Nagatsuta Depot (wich primarily serves the Denentoahi Line) as the Oimachi Line has no depots of it's own.

In 1996, Set 9007F was shortened to just three cars and put on service temporarily on the Kodomonokuni Line to test a new wheel-screech-reducing system. Set 9007F ended up operating on the Kodomonokuni Line for just three days, before being returned to Oimachi Line services.

In 2004, with the opening of the Minatomirai Line, 9000 Series trains extended their service on the new line, all the way down to Motomachi-Chukagai. In the same year, all the Oimachi Line trains (including set 9007F) were repainted in a new livery with the soon-to-be iconic yellow and orange front "gradation" band - the new livery was designed to avoid passenger mistaking trains in the section (between Futako-Tamagawa and Mizonokuchi Stations) where Denentoshi Line and Oimachi Line trains share the same tracks.

Starting from 2009, the 9000 Series trains began to be replaced by the 5050 Series. This was made in preparation for the opening of the link between the Fukutoshin Line and the Tokyu Toyoko Line: the 9000 Series was incapable of inter-running services as it hadn't the necessary equipment; earlier attempts at a conversion or retrofitting proved to be problematic.

Therefore, by 2013, all 9000 Series trains had been retired from the Toyoko Line, shortened to five cars, repainted and moved to the Oimachi Line, where they joined Set 9007F. Surplus cars were demolished or kept as spare-parts donors.

Going back in time to the late 1980s, the design of the 9000 Series had already been proven to be very successful, and in 1988, an 18m-long derivative was introduced specifically for Hibiya Line inter-running services: the 1000 Series (wich i already extensively covered in the respective pack, so i won't linger no longer).
In 1991, yet another 9000 Series derivative was introduced, this time for the Denentoshi Line: the 2000 Series.

Almost identical in design to the Toyoko Line 9000s, just three 10-car sets of the 2000 Series were manufactured: their aim was in fact to increase the capacity of the Denentoshi Line, rather than to replace any old stock. As such, Tokyu reckoned that an entirely new design was unnecessary, thus the new 2000 Series trains were designed to be as close as possible to the 9000 Series: this also helped with maintainance, as the 2000s and 9000s shared almost all spare parts.

Depsite all the similarities, there were also a few differences, namely the air conditioning unit (the 2000s used the newer long-type ones introduced with the 1000 Series, while the 9000s used the four small units of the older 8500 Series and the like), and the inverter: while both manufactured by Hitachi, 9000s used the older VF-HR-112 and the 2000s used the newer VF-HR-132, with both types having a sound radically different from one to the other.

Furthemore, unlike the 9000 Series, the 2000 Series had to be designed from the start with inter-running services in mind, as (already back then) all Tokyu Denentoshi Line services were inter-running trains with the TRTA Hanzomon Line. But being a relatively small fleet, Tokyu didn't deem necessary or even convenient having to to train Tobu Railway's drivers and conductors, or even to install Tobu's proprietary ATS equipment on the 2000 Series (a necessary requirement for inter-running services), meaning that the 2000 Series couldn't operate on the Tobu Iseaki Line (the other line having trough-services with the Hanzomon Line)
As such, for all their service life on the Denentoshi Line, 2000 Series trains bore a well visible "K" sticker on the front, indicating that they were a Tokyu-only compatible train.

All three sets entered service on the 29th of March 1992, with the two completed ones being sent to the Denentoshi Line, while the third one was provisionally sent to the Toyoko Line: due to a few delays, the last two cars of the set had not been completed, thus Set 9003F operated provisionally as an 8-car set on the Toyoko Line until November of the same year).

With the introduction of the 2020 Series in 2018, the three 2000 Series sets were displaced, shortened to five cars, repainted and sent to the Oimachi Line, where they joined their older relatives, the 2000 Series. Among other modifications, the 2000 Series trains' inverters were changed from the Hitachi GTO-VVVFs to Mitsubishi Electric IGBT-VVVF with SiC components.
One year later, in 2019, Tokyu decided to reclassify the 2000 Series: to avoid confusion with the recently-introduced 2020s, the older trains were renumbered in the 9000 Series, becoming the "9020 Series".

As of today, after the retirement of the 8090 and 8590 Serieses, all Oimachi Line local services are run by the 9000 and 9020 Serieses, wich make a total of eighteen 5-car sets; in other words, all 9000 and former 2000 Series sets are still in operation, altough shortened.

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Trivia #1:

The 9000 Series had originally been designed also for inter-running services with the Toei Mita and TRTA Namboku Lines, wich were to connect to the Meguro Line (then still called the "Mekama Line"). As such, the 9000 Series shares a good deal of similarities and design choiches to the almost coeval Toei 6300 Series and TRTA 9000 Series. Unfortunately, these plans were changed when it was discovered that the 9000 Series might not have been enough powerful for the two subway lines' steep gradients and the brakes weren't enough responsive, leading to difficulties in alignment to the platform screen doors while running in ATO mode. Instead of having to convert and to adapt the trains, Tokyu Corporation decided to introduce an entirely new design for inter-running services: the 3000 Series. The same problems with the 9000 Series resurfaced in 2013, during the planning of the Fukutoshin Line inter-running services: as such, all the 9000 Series trains had to be moved to the Oimachi Line before the start of inter-running operations.


Trivia #2:

Originally, the "9000 Series" designation was to be assigned to the would-be 8090 and 8590 Serieses. This was later changed as both serieses were technically-wise almost identical to their predecessors: the 8000 and 8500 Series.


Trivia #3:

The 2000 Series was Tokyu Car Co.'s last train built using the company's traditional "50 Years lifespan" mindset. In subsequent manufacturing, the company choose to adopt a system akin to JR East's "half the cost, half the weight, half the lifespan" one.


Trivia #4:

A series of early/mid-80s design proposals for the 9000 Series from Tokyu Car Co. Note the wrap-around windows and the top-mounted taillights - both ideas will later be abanoned. (source)

They're pretty good!

So will there be any plans of making more rolling stock based on the Odakyu Electric Railway? Simulated Japanese trains are nothing new to me since I used to have MSTS and drove the Series 2000 (Odakyu version) and the 7000 LSE Romancecar sets with the 30000 (non-driveable/AI only) on the early rendition of the Odakyū Odawara Line (Tokyo - Hakone). When I think of MSTS and its default routes, I would fondly remember the Northeast Corridor, Marias Pass, and the Settle-Carlisle Line, but I still somehow remember driving the Series 2000 set. I'm just leaving this idea out here even though I don't really care about Japanese rolling stock (non-Shinkansen) that much.

Hard at work for the 1.5. releaese on 28 november of Icarus Shinkansen.

This time I show Icaruko INTL. Airport and Icaruko Airport Shinkansen Station.

Link to full album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSaVdCP

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Trainmaster189 said:

They're pretty good!

So will there be any plans of making more rolling stock based on the Odakyu Electric Railway? (...)

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Thank you!

About future plans, here's a list of the trains i'd like to make. It does include the Odakyu 1000 and 2000 Series and the older 1800 Series too.

@all, as a sort of survey: which of the models in the list would you like to see next?

AlexMaria said:

Thank you!

About future plans, here's a list of the trains i'd like to make. It does include the Odakyu 1000 and 2000 Series and the older 1800 Series too.

@all, as a sort of survey: which of those models would you like to see next?

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I have long wanted for some one to make the 681- 683 series Thunderbird that run in the Kansai Area:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_(train)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_(train)

Also the NANKAI Rapid trains would be fab but maybe difficult due to the unusual shape.
Also on the wishlist is Tsukuba Express TX-1000, TX-2000.

@ALEXMARIA:

I will take a look at it hopefully soon:

To add to my frustration, it appears that even all my older trains using the same script (such as the 209-500 Series reskins or the TRTA 6000 Series) are now having the same problem.
Again, i don't know if the problem is caused by the script or the enginespec, furhtemore, i don't even know if it's a problem of the asset itself or just it doesn't want to work on my computer alone.
I'd ask those downloading the pack to give me a bit of feedback wether if the problem persists even on their trainz version or just on mine.

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AlexMaria said:

Thank you!

About future plans, here's a list of the trains i'd like to make. It does include the Odakyu 1000 and 2000 Series and the older 1800 Series too.

@all, as a sort of survey: which of those models would you like to see next?

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You're welcome! I do see you got the Series 2000 mentioned.

pagroove said:

Also on the wishlist is Tsukuba Express TX-1000, TX-2000.

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Ah, the Tsukuba Express... That's something that i forgot to instert in the list. That and the Keio Inokashira Line 1000 Series.

TX-1000 and TX-2000s would be certainly an interesting train to make, altough it might be a bit difficult with that pointy shape.

AlexMaria said:

Ok, i'll do a few of them in the next weeks. Do you need a few particular ones or can i chose whatever i like?

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well, i say you can pick and here are the time stamps if you wish to listen to whichever ones you would like to hear and i personally recommended

https://youtu.be/fgm-XmTZFj8 <-- follow this video

0:30-0:40 (for the 0 series)

8:09-8:20 (for 500 type eva)

8:36-8:45 (for e2,e5,h5,e6 and possibly 200 as well)

8:46-8:53 (for e2,e4,e7)

8:54-9:05 (for 700 and N700A)

9:13-9:24 (for 500(both for v set and w set),700,n700A) also my personal fav

9:34-9:47 (for e7?/w7)

9:48-9:58 (for 500 hello kitty)

10:03-10:25 (for 800 and n700 kyushu) i recommend not to do the rest of the kyushu's melody because there are way too many

rowletmaster said:

well, i say you can pick and here are the time stamps if you wish to listen to whichever ones you would like to hear and i personally recommended
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Ok, i'll see what i can do. Just one more question, would you like the chimes only or do i have to add the verbal announcments after them?

AlexMaria said:

Ok, i'll see what i can do. Just one more question, would you like the chimes only or do i have to add the verbal announcments after them?

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I think you have to add the verbal announcements.
My favorites are the Old Kyushu Shinkansen ones.

AlexMaria said:

Ok, i'll see what i can do. Just one more question, would you like the chimes only or do i have to add the verbal announcments after them?

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well sure. tho its gonna be hard since there are like a lot of them.

An Hanwa Line 113 Series in the light blue "rapid service" livery.

(I should really make a few more screenshots with the 113 Series reskins i did this summer...)

I've also found that the new enginsepec i made for the Tokyu 9000 Series fits perfectly not only on commuter trains but even on suburban ones, therefore i'll be updating my old 32 and 8-notches enginespecs. The updated enginespecs will be avaible shortly on my website.

Very Nice. Any ways, here are some shots of my trying out the Tokyu 1000, 2000, and 9000 Series made by AlexMaria



And 2 bonus shots. Tokyu 7000 and 8000 Series

Yours are nice too, altough there seems to be some kind of texture reflection issue with Keimei's models...

Thanks. I do know there's is Texture reflections issues with Keimei's models, but there are still fun to drive. I also remember driving the 2000, 8000 and 9000 series in Train Simulator Plus Densha de GO. The 9000 Series was my favorite because the start up while the train starts moving sounds really good

Some new pics of the route I'm working on. Finally added a few miles to a new mini city of Yamashiro, With a lakeside temple and soon to be added mountian scenery. Trying to go the rural route this streach of the line.