The Goodbye Thread

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Ok, look it is one thing to take a break but to delete every post you ever made going all the way back to what January 2007, email somebody because that's wrong.
I've left forums before, sometimes permanently and a few because of severe disagreements with things, but I have never deleted all my previous posts. Putting that much time and energy into deletions, you really need to email someone offline.
Not trying to come down on you, this just comes across like a screaming WARNING alarm.
 
What! Every post! That is worrisome:confused: . Are you okay? I hope it wasn't something about this forum that turned you away... As both Seeseeme and Storknest suggested take a break from this forum... come back later and see if you maybe have a different outlook.
 
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In all my years with the Trainz World I have never seen such action taken. It is very sad to see someone so upset with this great "Hobby" and/or the Trainz Community that they go to such lengths.

As StorkNest said, take a rest and come back, I know I did once for 6 months.

Take care,

Craig
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sorry for the inconvenience

nismit,
In my opinion, the inconvenience will most definately be incurred by yourself ! Leaving is easy, returning is a bit more difficult ?
Rethink your decision, few accept a member who has had their thoughts/ideas challenged, and then simply 'bails out'.
Deleting most of your posts is on the childish side in my opinion ?
Oh well, they/you come and they/you go ----

My thoughts ---DLR
 
Oh well, maybe I should have waited a day, but would it have changed the balance, I don't think so. I've learned my lesson.

nismit,
In my opinion, the inconvenience will most definately be incurred by yourself ! Leaving is easy, returning is a bit more difficult ?
Rethink your decision, few accept a member who has had their thoughts/ideas challenged, and then simply 'bails out'.
Deleting most of your posts is on the childish side in my opinion ?
Oh well, they/you come and they/you go ----

My thoughts ---DLR

Guess I felt like "sharing a piece of my hearth" with the forum. I can witness to the struggle that goes before such a decission, when the only clue is: "you've got a problem pal". As if it had escaped my attention.

I have corrected literally hundreds of errors in 2006 on assets made by "The TC3 Team"(tm). I've seen what happens, when you give trainz a grip on a null-pointer. Thus, when I buy a product made by these people, I expect them to at least provide tested and correct content. But no, same style and they've broken more! What good are the looks, if there are no brains inside?

Then I'm told "Good luck fixing the errors", surely fixing some error would break some assets like speed signs in the sim. It turns out TC3 is hardly a beta release too many missing part and broken features. Some of them have benn broken a long time, but we are told the internal fix has been broken, instead of the simple truth.

The brakes are more of less missing on default_wagon rolling. If you try fixing this simple problem and the other motor section issues in locomotive engine spec, you might find your trains to operate more as expected. Test only half of the cure and you'll see no result. This is where you MUST delete assets.tdx - having made 100% certain in advance, that no faulty assets are present.

The down to laws of nature approach to braking force&distance, inter signal distance and the impact on possible line speed is too hard. Shouting the AI is broken is much easier, but as long as you all shout ... we ain't bloody likely to improve anything, are we?

Most of my time with 2006 was spend fixing asset errors - to prevent crashes - correct problems and write about it here. More like work, less than the relaxing hobby of building running railroads I wanted.

So I was fighting a loosing battle and decided to give it a rest. To avoid the possiblity, that anybody could be mislead by information provided by me, I have removed it - and freed up space on the server.

Anyway, lots of errors in my input too, since I wrote as a learner testing things. I just did the decent thing and pulled a flawed product.

Yes, I should know better than trying to talk sense into people, but I'm not easily convinced. When I was slandered here on the forum by a member of the real sim team, who two days later claim my fix should be used because he had found another (as usual no details), I was ready to depart.



Reinstalled orginal video driver to orginal (against forum advise), then during a rewamp from 2006 mode to TC3 mode, I purged a folder too many while shifting out the 2006 stuff - loosing my TC3 libraries. No sweat just a reboot in off/line mode. This morning I did that and on this virgin install while off line, I drove the TCE (C&S) session, finally reaching Carlisle - on time, just fumbled with the camera.

Now, the real question, will it still work for me running online? Can't tell, find out for yourself.
 
Nismit, I feel your pain. TC3 is a piece of crap and the ones who build it continue to downtalk anybody who criticizes it. You are not alone.
 
Yes, I should know better than trying to talk sense into people, but I'm not easily convinced. When I was slandered here on the forum by a member of the real sim team, who two days later claim my fix should be used because he had found another (as usual no details), I was ready to depart.
Ah, I'm the reason you've deleted all your previous posts -pity there might have been some useful information in there but now we'll never know. I think you mean I said that your fix should not be used which is true and I stand by that. As for not giving any details of course I can't because I signed an NDA.

Edit: although I see Auran has let the cat out of the bag again, shame you didn't wait and read the Newsletter (the bit about the TC3 update).

http://www.auran.com/newsletter/trainz/august2008/newsletter_aug_2008.htm


Paul
 
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Wow! not you alone

Ah, I'm the reason you've deleted all your previous posts -pity there might have been some useful information in there but now we'll never know. I think you mean I said that your fix should not be used which is true and I stand by that. As for not giving any details of course I can't because I signed an NDA.

Paul

Paul, do what you are good at ...

Obviously you did not bother to conduct a proper test, but what I don't like is the manor in which the arguement is avoided. No alternative or workable solution suggested to a specific and common problem.

Auran, You and others have had 4+ years and 9 trainz releases to find a solution to the brake problem. Still you hide behind the evasive answer you so eloquently delivered. I have tried, but that's it. I do NOT like the manor in which the debate is being suppressed. Under such conditions the forum can be of no use to me.

Mod, acknowledge
 
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It's a pity that arguments like this happen here:confused: :'( ...

I agree. Some things are better kept in the PM arena. I was always taught never to air my dirty laundry. I used to know some children that would gather up their toys and go home when the game wasn't going their way.
 
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...Snip...some children that would gather up thier toys and go home when the game wasn't going their way.

And return the very next day saying, "I'm leaving for good this time" !
We have read it so many times ---

Nismit, commit yourself --- My thoughts---DLR
 
The surf was easy on the day I came to stay,

On this quiet island in the bay
I remember a line of women all in white
The laughter and the steel bands at night

Now the Americans are gone exept for two
The embassy's been hard to reach
There's been talk and lately a bit of action after dark
Behind the big casino on the beach

The rules are changed
It's not the same
It's all new players in a whole new ball game

Last night I dreamed of an old lover dressed in gray
I've had this fever now since yesterday
Wake up darling they're knocking the Colonel's standing in the sun
With his stupid face the glasses and the gun

I know what happens
I read the book
I believe I just got the goodbye look

Won't you pour me a Cuban breeze Gretchen

I know a fellow with a motor launch for hire
A skinny man with two-tone shoes
Cause tonight they're arranging a small reception just for me
Behind the big casino by the sea

I know what happens
I read the book
I believe I just got the goodbye look
 
nismit sent me a private email in which he specially asked that I shouldn't reply to it (a good way of winning an argument I thought). What he wrote was largely immaterial and simply personal attacks directed at Auran, Rail-sim and the beta testers anyway. I mention this to make it clear that we have tried to settle this off Forum.

One last chance to sort this out: please send me the modified configs and I'll try them out again in the latest build (this time deleting assets.tdx first which you didn't mention the first time round, I'm sorry but I don't know everything).

If you are really serious about wanting to improve TC3 you'll take me up on this, if not we'll just forget it.

Paul
 
that was the general idea

0099: yeah, you know, for hints on how to delete your posts, removing files and getting an afterlife, like learning how to walk again etc...

paul: had to read it 3 times, but okay, configs with a few comments will go into the TC3 forum
 
Paul, do what you are good at ...

Obviously you did not bother to conduct a proper test, but what I don't like is the manor in which the arguement is avoided. No alternative or workable solution suggested to a specific and common problem.

Auran, You and others have had 4+ years and 9 trainz releases to find a solution to the brake problem. Still you hide behind the evasive answer you so eloquently delivered. I have tried, but that's it. I do NOT like the manor in which the debate is being suppressed. Under such conditions the forum can be of no use to me.

Mod, acknowledge

Just a comment on software testing having worked professionally with computers for forty years. I've never come across any software the size and complexity of TC3 that was completely bug free. There is a graph that basically shows the number of bugs you can expect to discover over time and it never completely goes to zero.

That includes one very critical system that had been in production for thirty years, eventually it got rewritten because the people who wrote it originally and understood it were retiring. Money wasn't an object for testing on that system.

These days testing is a subject in its own right. I often think that much of the quality of my work owes itself to my beta testers who are nit picky although I must confess I sometimes take the approach that it's not worth chasing down or correcting a fault on the grounds of the amount of effort involved.

Cheerio John
 
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