ugly trains
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cascaderailroad
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I bet it was hot as holy heck in the cab, right next to the steam tube, so one would be able to sweat off the pounds :hehe: They were eventually outlawed because of unsafe design
MeowRailroad
CKRail
It must have been good in the winter, you could have your thermos of coffee or hot cocoa stay warm by putting it on the boiler. :hehe:
By far the funniest way to describe a train or any part thereof lol.
Why did the cab need to be there though. If it was for shunting visibility, why not just a simple cabforward, especially since the engineer and fireman were going to be separated anyway.
Being half way along the boiler Im guessing is probably the worst place you could be if there was a boiler malfunction. I would be sweating more about if the fireman was having a good day or not or if you were well liked lol. He might let the water get low and have a result like this
That's not the way to have a good day I suggest lol.
Good question, you would still be very reliant on the guys on the ground giving directions where it is, a cabforward would seem logical, and a much safer position to be in if your fireman didn't like you lol.
Actually, the supply of (anthracite) coal did not "run out." The so-called "Wooten fireboxes" used on most Camelback locos were designed to burn small sizes of anthracite coal.
"In 1918, the Interstate Commerce Commission banned further construction of camelbacks, but allowed a few exceptions up to the early 1920s. Finally in 1927, the ICC forbade any more orders for the center cab locomotive on the grounds of safety."
That (and much, much more) is explained in SteamLocomotive.com's excellent article on The Anthracite Railroads and the Camelback Locomotive.
As to the reason for the Camelback design that featured a cab positioned mid-boiler, here's another quote from said article:
"Adapting this new firebox to a locomotive required it to be located above the driving wheels because its width would not permit it to fit between them. However, locating it in front of the crew cab obstructed the engineer's view. So the engineer's cab was moved ahead of the firebox and located astride the boiler and the fireman remained in the rear of the locomotive and was provided minimum protection from the weather."
True, if you'd like the crew to stick together. Since Camelback crews were already separated, there would be no difference whether or not the engineer was in the middle or way up front, the fireman is still gonna be hanging around the back porch.
This GP40-3M
Which you can buy for the price of $380,000.00 at http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=933&n=EMD-GP40-3M
peter
Which you can buy for the price of $380,000.00 at http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=933&n=EMD-GP40-3M
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MeowRailroad
CKRail
Kinda cool, actually. I think the worst part is the nose, if it was like a shortened F40PH nose it would be OK.
nathanmallard
Active member
The EM2/NS 1500 is a fantastic looking machine...I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder though.
MeowRailroad
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In the 1st pic I don't think there is a left rail. Am I just seeing things?
cascaderailroad
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Rock Paper Scissors, Fee Fie Foe Shoot ... Rock beats track, anyday
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MeowRailroad
CKRail
If you don't like that 1st pic I assume you don't like
1) Backwoods Narrow Gauge
2) On30 models
1) Backwoods Narrow Gauge
2) On30 models
A classic example of American ingenuity.
Great Northern RR fans probably feel that hi-rail '55 Buick Special looks even better when viewed in living color... umm, maybe.
MeowRailroad
CKRail
No I'm saying that there are a lot more of those in those 2 categories.
I can say that the Buick right there is a whole lot more stylish than many of the cars being sold today! I wouldn't mind running the rails in that cool ride, as long as I could outrun the trains...in either forward or reverse...Great Northern RR fans probably feel that hi-rail '55 Buick Special looks even better when viewed in living color... umm, maybe.