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jadebullet · Jan 3, 2011

Comparison time!
America

UK

USA

UK

USA

UK

Really, I only see the UK beating the US in the passenger department. BTW, I chose the Crusader for the streamliner comparison because, aside from its beauty, its looks are comparable to the Mallard, shape and color wise.

BTW

Anyway, it is all a matter of opinion. Personally, there are very few UK things that I like. I tend to be a US/NZ/GER fan myself.

sawyer811 · Jan 3, 2011

Flying Scotsman is beautiful, just not in her american configuration. she doesn't look right with a cowcatcher and american headlight. But she does need her second tender back:hehe:.

simulatortrain · Jan 3, 2011

uracco said:
Ok wiseguy here is a lump and and some english one's to compare to.
America

United Kingdom
united Kingdom 2

So how about that then Eh?:hehe:

I said comparable... As in, locomotives built for a similar purpose around the same time.

(Also when you find a Dash 8-shaped lump of anything, please take a picture.)

Sampug394 · Jan 3, 2011

uracco said:

A Challenger approaches:

orig-neg-b-o-5304-royal-blue-washington-dc-4-39_400177773154.jpg

The Royal Blue. Streamlined, Fast, Good Looking - Hasn't broken parts off during operation... :hehe:

Anywho, Comparing an old Teakettle to a Semi-Modern Union Pacific Diesel Locomotive is pretty pointless too. Even though more than likely our 'Lumps' can outpull AND outrun any of your silly little squeakers at the same time.

captainkman · Jan 3, 2011

Sampug394 said:
The Royal Blue. Streamlined, Fast, Good Looking - Hasn't broken parts off during operation... :hehe:

That wasn't Mallard, that was another A4, Silver Fox or Silver Link, I think.

wilh · Jan 3, 2011

Here are some that are pretty bad/ugly

(I like the Santa Fe, but just not this)

Very few double ended US locos actually look good and this is not one of them
(but the GG1 is apart of the good looking group).

SD45T-2 · Jan 3, 2011

Find a different image. You just lost one.

qassaquyangli · Jan 4, 2011

Dear Wilh,
Those locomotives are beuties........:hehe:

captainkman · Jan 4, 2011

qassaquyangli said:
Dear Wilh,
Those locomotives are beuties........:hehe:

Wilh,

I like the first one!

The third one is by far the best.:hehe:

jadebullet · Jan 4, 2011

legolistic · Jan 4, 2011

Is that an export EMD unit?

jadebullet · Jan 4, 2011

Yup. An SW1001 that got bumpers.

I do have to say that the plate is classy though.

legolistic · Jan 4, 2011

I read that it's an Export for a mining company for the UK.

jadebullet · Jan 4, 2011

Yup. That sounds about right. I wonder what the little awning over the radiator is for.

uracco · Jan 4, 2011

Sure but

jadebullet said:
Comparison time!
America

UK

USA

UK

USA

UK

UK

Really, I only see the UK beating the US in the passenger department. BTW, I chose the Crusader for the streamliner comparison because, aside from its beauty, its looks are comparable to the Mallard, shape and color wise.

BTW

Anyway, it is all a matter of opinion. Personally, there are very few UK things that I like. I tend to be a US/NZ/GER fan myself.

Sure you may think that but I even think that the American freighters are beaten by the UK machines. I mean we designed some of the best looking machines on the planet. I would for once like to see something American that does not look like the same as everything else in use. Do the designers have imagination or are they just lazy?

Uracco

uracco · Jan 4, 2011

Yes

whistlehead said:
I think that's one of the prettiest modern trains to come out of Germany. It looks very nice, and can be easily adapted to other rail networks. The UK's getting a few soon, modified to the UK loading gauge for use on Eurostar services. Or at least, that's what I've heard.

yes that is right we are getting some of the Siemens Velaro E or D's but not for Eurostar. I think it will go St.Pancras (England) then trough France to Munich in Germany.

uracco

whistlehead · Jan 4, 2011

jadebullet said:
Yup. That sounds about right. I wonder what the little awning over the radiator is for.

Probably to protect the radiator from falling rocks - it's a quarry shunter.

BTW, we call them "Buffers"

tardis626 · Jan 4, 2011

uracco said:
yes that is right we are getting some of the Siemens Velaro E or D's but not for Eurostar. I think it will go St.Pancras (England) then trough France to Munich in Germany.

It's if DB are allowed to run their own services through the Chunnel, they'll run alongside Eurostar.

Regards,
Phil

gisa · Jan 5, 2011

uracco said:
Sure you may think that but I even think that the American freighters are beaten by the UK machines. I mean we designed some of the best looking machines on the planet. I would for once like to see something American that does not look like the same as everything else in use. Do the designers have imagination or are they just lazy?

Uracco

Please do not quote pictures: it's a waste of bandwidth and it's redundant. If you want to quote someone, just quote them and delete the pictures.

Your opinion is subjective, just like everyone else's. I prefer North American stuff myself but I can respect the opinions of others when they say they like their stuff too. I can also admit that some stuff made by other countries looks great and that some NA stuff is indeed quite ugly. In the end, it's all subjective...

The adage "if it 'aint broke, don't fix it" comes to mind which is perhaps why NA locomotives/rolling stock may seem somewhat similar. I could easily jump to this conclusion for other countries locomotives too. However, upon closer inspection, there are a variety of designs in each country.

Every culture designs unique and useful things. Saying Americans (or any country for that matter) lack imagination or are lazy is a pretty harsh, ignorant, and narrow minded prejudice, unless you've personally met a LOT of American designers. It's sad to think that there are many others who feel this way about other countries and other cultures.

I think it is time for me to unsubscribe from this thread.

Gisa

simulatortrain · Jan 5, 2011

uracco said:
Sure you may think that but I even think that the American freighters are beaten by the UK machines. I mean we designed some of the best looking machines on the planet. I would for once like to see something American that does not look like the same as everything else in use. Do the designers have imagination or are they just lazy?

Uracco

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