Not Finding TRS19 SAP Track

Forester1

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Hi! I have the following tracks listed in CM as made by MSGsapper:

<kuid2:439337:103417:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, Rusty, Track only
<kuid2:439337:103412:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rail-Rusty-Left
<kuid2:439337:103189:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Timber Ties
<kuid2:439337:103413:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rail-Rusty-Right
<kuid2:439337:103190:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes-Left
<kuid2:439337:103191:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes-Right

However when I go to work on the route I am making in TRS19 Platinum, only the very first one shows. Since I don't want track only, I am wondering why I am not seeing the other 5 choices? They all list as type "Track", all as version "4.6", all upload date of "20_FEB-2020", all "Installed from DLS". And yet when I go to select a track to lay out, I am only given the first one? Is there something I need to do to get the others to show? I did DBRs with SP2 install..... Thanks for ideas!
 
I have just downloaded and installed them, install went perfectly with no errors. Does your CM report any errors?

My CM list is:-

<kuid2:439337:103187:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG Mesh Library-Revised
<kuid2:439337:103193:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rail-Shiny-Right
<kuid2:439337:103409:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, Shiny, Track only
<kuid2:439337:103417:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, Rusty, Track only
<kuid2:439337:103412:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rail-Rusty-Left
<kuid2:439337:103413:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rail-Rusty-Right
<kuid2:439337:103192:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rail-Shiny-Left
<kuid2:439337:103414:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rusty
<kuid2:439337:103416:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rusty, No Ballast
<kuid2:439337:103196:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Shiny
<kuid2:439337:103407:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Shiny, No Ballast
<kuid2:439337:103189:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Timber Ties
<kuid2:439337:103190:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes-Left
<kuid2:439337:103191:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes-Right

However, only 6 of them (those in bold above) appear in the Track Selection tool window. A mystery.
 
AHA! Yes a mystery, and it would appear that the ones I have downloaded are your un-bolded ones! But most of them-and-mine are either right or left? Not really track? They don't show up in Asset Preview either. And no .im files. So I guess if I download the other ones, maybe I will at least have something show up in my track selector? Somehow I apparently selected all of the "wrong" ones :eek: . But I would think <kuid2:439337:103189:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Timber Ties would be full tracks, unless they are ties only. Sigh, I guess I will download the lot and then see what I have to work with. They really are good looking track, and spikes set the tone for the era.... Thanks for the response pware, I think you led me to the solution, if left with question marks.... :eek:
 
It's not a mystery. These are procedural tracks, which are build using several dependencies.
<kuid2:439337:103417:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, Rusty, Track only
<kuid2:439337:103412:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rail-Rusty-Left
<kuid2:439337:103189:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Timber Ties
<kuid2:439337:103413:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes, Rail-Rusty-Right
<kuid2:439337:103190:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes-Left
<kuid2:439337:103191:1> TRS19 SAP Track U.S. 132LB SG, FB, TP with Spikes-Right
Only the first asset is this track, all the other assets are dependencies of the track. These dependencies are marked as 'permit-listing 0', to avoid filling the surveyor list with (usually) useless entries.

Peter
 
Then, without trying to sound critical, the problem is the names chosen by the creator for each "invisible" component asset. Each of those components is named in exactly the same format and style as the actual track asset. So someone downloading track assets would easily be confused.
 
Auran/N3V is doing it the same way
<kuid2:523:19723660:6> TRS19 Track 1 Tunnel - Non Seasonal
<kuid2:523:19723661:3> TRS19 Track 1 Chairs-Left - Non Seasonal
<kuid2:523:19723662:3> TRS19 Track 1 Chairs-Right - Non Seasonal
<kuid2:523:19723663:3> TRS19 Track 1 Rail-Left - Non Seasonal
<kuid2:523:19723664:3> TRS19 Track 1 Rail-Right - Non Seasonal
<kuid2:523:19723665:5> TRS19 Track 1 Sleepers - Non Seasonal
Only the first one is visible in the surveyor list, the others are the dependencies of the track.

Peter
 
Yes, my confusion was on the downloads. I obviously did not get all the pieces-parts downloaded correctly. Obvious to me now, and I should be fine when I get the rest downloaded. I will be a few more days on UMR2021 :hehe:. Thanks for the answers guys, you have both brought me up to speed on procedural track!
 
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