Of interest to canal content creators.

oooh, those look really cool, it seems there is a great lack in canal assets but a lot of people building routes with canals...like everything else, add this to the list of stuff that would be cool to see made.
 
Yes that is 1 of 2 lift locks in the Trent Severn Waterway about 3 hours north of where I live in Niagara. There is also the Big Chute marine railway which basically is a chamber and hoist that holds the vessel and takes it out of the water over a railroad track up and down the hill to the other body of water. I've actually transited this as it's known as lock 44.

I also live in a city where the Welland Ship Canal transits which are much larger locks (not as big as Panama but close as they were built in the 30's). The tough part about all those assets is the height of the drop is different for every situation. So for example I have dual flight locks of 4,5,& 6 that basically run into each other on two sides to keep upbound and downbound vessels moving. This is soon followed by Lock 7 which is a single lock possibly at another number of meters (I forget the exact lift for each). But by the time it gets to Port Colborne there is lock 8. This lock is an adjustment lock so that it could go up or down depending on the current level of Lake Erie and usually doesn't require the ship to dock. The longest lock on the canal. All 5 of these locks are near tracks in Niagara that I'm building. An Erie canal or Trent canal lock will probably not work as it won't hold an ocean going ship.

Thanks

Sean
 
Seane2c said:
Yes that is 1 of 2 lift locks in the Trent Severn Waterway about 3 hours north of where I live in Niagara. There is also the Big Chute marine railway which basically is a chamber and hoist that holds the vessel and takes it out of the water over a railroad track up and down the hill to the other body of water. I've actually transited this as it's known as lock 44.

I also live in a city where the Welland Ship Canal transits which are much larger locks (not as big as Panama but close as they were built in the 30's). The tough part about all those assets is the height of the drop is different for every situation. So for example I have dual flight locks of 4,5,& 6 that basically run into each other on two sides to keep upbound and downbound vessels moving. This is soon followed by Lock 7 which is a single lock possibly at another number of meters (I forget the exact lift for each). But by the time it gets to Port Colborne there is lock 8. This lock is an adjustment lock so that it could go up or down depending on the current level of Lake Erie and usually doesn't require the ship to dock. The longest lock on the canal. All 5 of these locks are near tracks in Niagara that I'm building. An Erie canal or Trent canal lock will probably not work as it won't hold an ocean going ship.

Thanks

Sean
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Locks are built using a transfer table and there aren't that many content creators who have built them. Smile very nicely at one and they may make you the locks you desire or have a look at the existing ship locks there are one or two floating around.

Cheerio John
 
Oh for sure John, not being critical at all. In fact I was going to look into building my own asset at some point. But I'm a long ways from being that close to worrying about it.

Thanks

Sean
 
Seane2c said:
Oh for sure John, not being critical at all. In fact I was going to look into building my own asset at some point. But I'm a long ways from being that close to worrying about it.

Thanks

Sean
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Locks using transfer tables are interesting, I've seen a number of people give up trying to make one but it can be done.

Cheerio John
 
Thanks...shall do.
Mr. Stagecoach, while you're here........do you know of any stagecoaches for download ?
 
JimDep, here are some assets to browse through by thecowboy, Older versions, these are animated to run on invisible track:
<kuid2:63290:9015:2> wagon stagecoach - trotting
<kuid2:63290:50116:1> wagon stagecoach front bogey
<kuid:63290:9016> wagon stagecoach horses - trotting
<kuid:63290:50118> wagon stagecoach horses - trotting bogey
<kuid2:63290:50117:1> wagon stagecoach rear bogey

Here are more assets of the scenery, building, and people variety, by Dave Snow and thecowboy:
<kuid2:101046:107150:1> Sign Stagecoach DES
<kuid:101046:107169> Sign Stagecoach Route DES
<kuid2:79097:100005:1> Stagecoach2 - this shows as built-in in T:ANE, version 1.3
<kuid:79097:100011> Stagecoach Driver
<kuid:79097:100008> Stagecoach Full Hitch1
<kuid:79097:100007> Stagecoach Horse Bay
<kuid:79097:100010> Stagecoach Horse Paint
<kuid:79097:100012> Stagecoach Shotgun Guard
 
<kuid2:521966:21065:1> RC Wells Fargo StageCoach
<kuid2:86627:100389:1> wagon stagecoach front bogey
<kuid2:79097:100005:1> Stagecoach2
<kuid:79097:100005> Stagecoach2
<kuid:79097:100011> Stagecoach Driver
<kuid:79097:100008> Stagecoach Full Hitch1
<kuid:79097:100007> Stagecoach Horse Bay
<kuid:79097:100010> Stagecoach Horse Paint
<kuid:79097:100012> Stagecoach Shotgun Guard
<kuid:63290:29006> Wagon Stagecoach
<kuid2:63290:9015:1> wagon stagecoach - trotting
<kuid2:63290:9015:2> wagon stagecoach - trotting
<kuid:63290:9017> wagon stagecoach - trotting
<kuid2:63290:9017:1> wagon stagecoach - trotting
<kuid2:86627:100388:1> wagon stagecoach - trotting
<kuid2:63290:50116:1> wagon stagecoach front bogey
<kuid:63290:50137> wagon stagecoach front bogey
<kuid2:86627:100380:2> wagon stagecoach horses - trotting
<kuid2:86627:100380:1> wagon stagecoach horses - trotting
<kuid:63290:9016> wagon stagecoach horses - trotting
<kuid2:86627:100381:1> wagon stagecoach horses - trotting bogey
<kuid:63290:50118> wagon stagecoach horses - trotting bogey
<kuid2:86627:100390:1> wagon stagecoach rear bogey
<kuid2:63290:50117:1> wagon stagecoach rear bogey
<kuid:63290:50138> wagon stagecoach rear bogey
 
Ben has only 2 assets for the Erie Canal on the DLS that I could find. 1 is a road bridge that crosses over it. The other is a model of what he calls an abandoned lock from probably what is the pre 1905 barge canal update era. But if that's the case the dimensions he quotes are not right. Both ends use guillotine drop gates. Not really knowledgeable on Erie Canal history but I didn't think they used gates like this pre 1905. Only 1 lock on the "new" barge canal uses a gate of this type at one end only - Lock #17 east end.

There are a couple of "guard" gates of this design that subdivide the canal to prevent large scale water loss if a section experiences damage but these are not associated with locks per say and from what I remember these are 2 side by side drop gates.

Not much canal infrastructure applicable to the Erie on the DLS that I've seen.

Bob Pearson
 
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Look for 44700;38885 on the DLS. This is a test model made for the Chicago Tunnel Company, it uses animation by Vulcan and does not represent the finished model. Lifts like this were used to deliver loaded freight cars up to ground level warehouses.

The CTC that we built was actually constructed inside-out, the entire project was built so that all the action was inside the tunnels. Externally, everything was visible .

Narrowgauge
 
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