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    Default schedule library issue and replacement?

    I think I'm having some problem with the schedule library. In the session editor, I created a set of rules for a specific section of track (navigate to ... and load)
    In the route I added them to the setup of a Basic Portal so the every consist that is produced has the same set rules. The first two rules are ordinary and then I appended the rest from the schedule library.

    When it is time for the first command in the library to execute, my TRS19 crashes to the desktop. Tried it again, same result. Removed the schedule library and everything is fine.

    I looked at the site js-home.org/trainz and the schedule library has a big red banner "Outdated" at the top of the page. No indication of an update.

    Is there something that has the same functionality that can replace this?


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    Have you tried the Schedule Library Rule that is built-in? It is <kuid2:192081:12:5> by brummfondel in TANE and <kuid:-3:10185> by Auran in TRS19?

    I have used it in TANE (but not yet in TRS19) and it worked fine.
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    I use the current one all the time with little issues at all. Avoid append and use insert instead. This was and has been an issue all along. For some reason, using append causes commands to end up in the wrong order, but using insert after insert works fine.
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    After a bit more research I have found <kuid2:82445:90001:9> Driver Schedule Rule by transiberiano which is built into TRS19 - details at http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/i..._Schedule_Rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pware View Post
    After a bit more research I have found <kuid2:82445:90001:9> Driver Schedule Rule by transiberiano which is built into TRS19 - details at http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/i..._Schedule_Rule.

    This is the one I use, no problems, though I do not use portals.

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    I do not understand the purpose of this rule. The title "schedule" - is there a schedule? Is it supposed to work with the Schedule Train Library rule?.
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    The way that I have used the Driver Schedule Rule (<kuid2:82445:90001:9>) in the past is as a "Library" of Driver Command sequences - schedules if you like - that can be used to replace or add to the currently assigned commands for a driver under certain circumstances.

    For example, if an AI driver is forced onto a particular path and activates a particular trigger then the current driver command list can be replaced by a set from the library or new library commands can be appended to the current commands. If a driver, under manual control, passes a signal at stop then it can be immediately issued with a Halt command from the Library.
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    Cool

    Ok, the rule seems more related to the extemporaneous actions of a Driver, rather than the controlled command set of an AI journey. However AI can, at times, can need rules like this. THANKS
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    Append will add the new commands to the end of your drivers list. Insert will replace the icon with the new commands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCitron View Post
    I use the current one all the time with little issues at all. Avoid append and use insert instead. This was and has been an issue all along. For some reason, using append causes commands to end up in the wrong order, but using insert after insert works fine.
    Well Insert worked, no crash. Thanks for the tip.
    Just wondering, how do I see the other Schedule library? I see it in CM but when I go to edit my session, the Add only shows one Schedule Library.


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    When I search for "Schedule" in CM (TRS19 Platinum) this is what I get.


    The three shown that are rules all appear in the Session Editor ADD list in Surveyor. If you type "Schedule" in the entry box at the top of the ADD list, a natural thing to do when searching for Schedule rules, it will jump straight to the first rule name that begins with Schedule and skips over the "Driver Schedule Rule". So type "Driver" instead or scroll down the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pware View Post
    When I search for "Schedule" in CM (TRS19 Platinum) this is what I get.


    The three shown that are rules all appear in the Session Editor ADD list in Surveyor. If you type "Schedule" in the entry box at the top of the ADD list, a natural thing to do when searching for Schedule rules, it will jump straight to the first rule name that begins with Schedule and skips over the "Driver Schedule Rule". So type "Driver" instead or scroll down the list.
    I was going to ask how to get a readout like that? I did a r/click on the bar and added columns, I have been missing all this info for years!

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    In my CM I get two Schedule Libraries when I filter for Schedule

    I suppose only the "rules"show in the Add. Will have to investigate the Driver Schedule Rule to see if it also works for me. Now that I use the Insert instead of the Append, the crashing has stopped.


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    Just want to verify that I have interpreted the thread ok - The Library is a place for labeled SETS of driver commands to reside. Then when you want the virtual driver to do some fairly common task, instead of rewriting it, you simply refer to a label to get a SET of existing instructions. Probably many customers have avoided this feature after being plagued with Append command.
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    That is correct.
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