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    Default Trainz Plus Beta - 2020 Update 1 ready for testing

    The next Trainz Plus update is now ready for external beta testing. All Trainz Plus and Gold Class members have the option to update using the "Trainz Plus Beta" patch stream. Patch from 105100 to 105458 (1GB).

    This build has gone through extensive internal testing and should not have any regressions from the current live version (105100).

    There are several bug fixes, but focuses mainly on the new Surveyor Tools to make the task of updating routes to use the TRS19 features much easier and quicker.

    For details on using the new tools:
    http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/i...ols_.282020.29

    If you haven't discovered the Effect Layer tools yet, we recommend these Getting Started Video Tutorials.
    https://contentcreation.trainzsimula...g/turfeffects/

    Known issues/workarounds:

    • Preview Window viewport needs to be adjusted closer to the ground
    • TurfFx disappears near the camera on loading (zoom out to high level then zoom in again)
    • Turffx stops rendering after scrolling through presets (use the dropdown list)
    • Advanced options toggle does not toggle when using the arrow keys
    • Variable display speedlimit sign de-sync Track Profile & Speedometer when switching MPH\KPH
    • Player cannot regain train control when loading a save made when running AI
    • Disappearing track mystery (fixed internally)
    • "Navigate to" text entry box background colour needs changing
    • When using the Get effect tool, clicking the X will prevent rendering until you re-open the preview window


    Fixes: (these will work their way into other releases)

    • Steam locomotive bogeys animate incorrectly in Realistic Controls mode
    • View asset details 'description' box formatting of asset descriptions improved
    • Cinematic Camera - values now correctly used when junction is target


    NOTE:
    One of the limitations of Turffx is that only one window can be rendered at a time. This means that there is a transition when switching from Preview window to 3D world view where there is no effect layer for ~5 seconds. We're investigating how this can be improved.
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    Hi Tony & Crew

    To start I wish you and all at N3V a great Australia Day and hope you get to enjoy the long weekend.

    I do have a problem - DL went fine and install but the window is stuck on cleaning up for past 10 mins is this normal (should I be concerned) any pointers on this problem?

    Ok it has resumed after 11 mins - this may help others who have this issue.
    Last edited by butler57; January 24th, 2020 at 03:18 AM. Reason: update
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    The time it takes to rebuild the database depends on the amount of content installed and the speed of your hardware. 10 or 11 minutes sounds like on the slow side of things, but not out of the ordinary.
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    Tony

    The 10-11 mins was for the "clean up" on the install window before DB rebuild - yep got a very very big DB on this build still going 45 mins in still checking Faulty Assets - no rush!

    DB complete - have 2000+ assets showing faulty - mainly issues with built in assets coming up modified - seems to affect splines, textures.
    Have done some "reverts" seems to work.

    Also getting screen freeze when opening List Dependencies window - CM appears to be doing a lot of background stuff - circle twirling.
    Will try another DB rebuild and see what happens.
    Last edited by butler57; January 24th, 2020 at 06:08 AM.
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    All sessuons now faulty. Doing a Full Database repair.

    Plus how do you stop the update appearing when Stream changed to Plus from Plus Beta (different Install).
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    I have an asset, flagged "Unknown location", which is missing in 59 sessions: <kuid:-25:1230> End Session by Auran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordfish View Post
    I have an asset, flagged "Unknown location", which is missing in 59 sessions: <kuid:-25:1230> End Session by Auran

    Regards
    Swordfish

    Same here after doing an Extended Database Repair, End session was partly causing my faulty sessions along with errors in many region assets example below:
    Code:
    ; <kuid2:45176:100064:2> Validating <kuid2:45176:100064:2>
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car3' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car4' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car5' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car6' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car7' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car8' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car9' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car10' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car11' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car12' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car13' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2> VE45: The tag 'car14' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    - <kuid2:45176:100064:2>
    Affected Regions:

    <kuid:-1:78031> S&C 1960s
    <kuid2:425968:1319:1> 1950s-Era USA Region
    <kuid:243828:100010> Appen Region
    <kuid2:57230:31003:2> Sherman Hill Region
    <kuid:329364:1683> Australia 1950s
    <kuid2:45176:100064:2> Tasmania Region 1950s
    <kuid:203201:16> Region OldTimer [1930s]
    <kuid:84609:28720> PLL_1930s
    <kuid2:497137:101143:1> UK Western Region c1956-66 for Dearnby
    <kuid2:83500:100055:1> WA Region c1959
    <kuid:56603:100271> WeddinNSW Region
    <kuid:497137:100377> UK Western Region c1956-66
    <kuid:304444:105566> UK Western Region c1956-66 v2
    <kuid2:56603:100557:2> WeddinNSW Region - with Holdenz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordfish View Post
    I have an asset, flagged "Unknown location", which is missing in 59 sessions: <kuid:-25:1230> End Session by Auran

    Regards
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    Same here !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordfish View Post
    I have an asset, flagged "Unknown location", which is missing in 59 sessions: <kuid:-25:1230> End Session by Auran

    Regards
    Swordfish
    In Contentmanager "Installed" and "Out of date" I have downloaded <kuid:-25:1316> End Session by Auran, which don't obsolete <kuid:-25:1230> End Session by Auran

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    Fyi, we're looking into the issue with the End Session rule. It (most likely) will mean that "gameplay" sessions won't work until we get an updated version to you.

    So meanwhile I would focus on the Turffx and clutter effect layers and we'll attempt to get a new version of the asset to you tomorrow (actually today as it's after midnight right now).

    Re:
    VE45: The tag 'car3' is not permitted within a container of type 'region'.
    >>
    We'll take a look at what's changed (content or code), and let you know.
    Last edited by Tony_Hilliam; January 24th, 2020 at 09:41 AM.
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    Update fails either before download


    Or after download


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    I don't want to install this patch. Why am I prompted to do so even if I select the T:ANE stream?

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    I did install the patch and now Trainz will not start, even after several DB repairs. So, I am stuck. I wish I did not install it, and from now on I will set up a "recovery point" in windows before I do. I cannot find a sadder face than this one:
    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1225 v3 @ 3.20GHz, 3201 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
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    Installed version 105458 with no problems.

    I have about 20 items, mostly sessions, that show an asset with an unknown locations. It is "End Session" <kuid:-25;1230>. There is a built in asset with the same name only the kuid is -25:1316. When I change the config file to reflex the built in version the error goes away.

    This was not an issue in build 105100. Not sure why this is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_Bert View Post
    Installed version 105458 with no problems.

    I have about 20 items, mostly sessions, that show an asset with an unknown locations. It is "End Session" <kuid:-25;1230>. There is a built in asset with the same name only the kuid is -25:1316. When I change the config file to reflex the built in version the error goes away.

    This was not an issue in build 105100. Not sure why this is happening.

    Yes.

    Me too, this issue for me into the sessions

    <kuid2:212731:501093:4> 3DZUG The Broadway Limited

    Built-in missing dep.
    <kuid2:212731:501127:1> Pro Trainz® ETR 1000 - Highspeed Run
    <kuid2:661281:110023:7> Tutorial 10 - Steam
    <kuid2:523:19723719:11> 03 Dispatchin' the Action
    <kuid2:300193:100335:8> Morning Run
    <kuid2:523:19723695:12> 01 Highland Limited
    <kuid2:523:19723729:8> 02 Rocky Mountaineer - Eastbound Engineer
    <kuid2:523:19723737:6> 01 Rocky Mountaineer - Westbound Tourist
    <kuid2:605579:100430:3> St Ives Passenger Run
    <kuid2:154322:100046:9> 1E52 09.10 Dundee - Kings Cross
    <kuid2:523:19723724:9> 03 Westbound Coal
    <kuid2:154322:100244:6> 1S77 23.15 Kings Cross - Aberdeen. The Night Capitals
    <kuid2:605579:100218:7> Night of the Twister
    <kuid2:523:19723706:11> 02 Local Freight
    <kuid2:212731:780008:3> 3DZUG DRG Class 05 - S1501
    <kuid2:212731:801000:12> SZ 91101 - Avmz INTERCITY 71
    <kuid2:212731:780009:2> 3DZUG DRG Class 05 - S1502
    <kuid2:212731:801001:11> SZ 91100 - Avmz INTERCITY 71
    <kuid2:212731:501093:4> 3DZUG The Broadway Limited
    <kuid2:523:19723720:6> 04 Multiplayer Session
    <kuid2:605579:100434:4> Helston Passenger Run
    <kuid2:523:19723730:5> 04 Multiplayer Session
    <kuid2:37187:1303:1> EMD SD40-2 CP #5990
    <kuid2:605579:100439:3> A Trip to Falmouth
    <kuid2:487560:100001:7> The DPU Push
    <kuid2:212731:780001:1> Laadgs: Cars for Stockheim
    <kuid2:605579:100129:6> Base Session
    <kuid:605579:100260> Base Session
    <kuid2:661281:110017:13> Tutorial 04 - Industry
    <kuid2:212731:8001:7> Brescia - Pisogne
    <kuid2:523:19723742:1> CRM - CP Local Freight
    <kuid2:300193:100291:16> Delivery Time
    <kuid2:661281:110019:7> Tutorial 06 - Objectives
    <kuid2:212731:8003:6> Maintenance Service
    <kuid2:203554:100276:2> Dispatchers in Revelstoke
    <kuid2:212731:501407:6> Pro Trainz®: 'Orient Express Part 1' by 3DZUG
    <kuid2:37187:1311:1> EMD SD40-2 CP #6012
    <kuid:212731:501045> Pennsylvania Railroad X23 Boxcar - 3DZUG
    <kuid2:523:19723125:16> FossilFuels
    <kuid2:605579:100563:4> Freight Delivery
    <kuid2:605579:100025:1> Mix Train Collector
    <kuid2:605579:100217:10> Grain Collector
    <kuid:212731:900100> GZ 57410 Tnrfhs Refrigerator - 3DZUG Tnfrhs
    <kuid2:605579:100011:4> Transfer Run
    <kuid2:212731:801003:13> GZ 57921 3DZUG Hccrrs
    <kuid2:212731:801002:11> GZ 57922 3DZUG Hccrrs
    <kuid2:661281:110014:13> Tutorial 01 - Easy Mode
    <kuid2:605579:100542:3> Helston Freight Run
    <kuid2:212731:501408:3> Pro Trainz®: 'Orient Express Part 2' by 3DZUG
    <kuid2:212731:780000:1> Laadgs: Car Collector
    <kuid2:605579:100220:7> Lumber Mill Duties
    <kuid2:212731:780002:4> RB 17848 Stockheim - 3DZUG DBuz 747
    <kuid2:487560:100002:7> Mojave To Bakersfield
    <kuid2:605579:100450:3> Mainline Passenger Service
    <kuid2:605579:100221:8> Mill Town Switching
    <kuid2:523:19723387:5> Multiplayer Session
    <kuid2:661281:110018:8> Tutorial 05 - Signals
    <kuid2:212731:8002:6> Pisogne - Rovato Borgo
    <kuid2:212731:501126:2> Pro Trainz® ETR 1000 - Frecciarossa 9705
    <kuid2:487560:100003:6> The Walong Stall
    <kuid2:212731:780003:1> RB 17858 Heldenbergen - 3DZUG DBuz 747
    <kuid2:661281:110016:12> Tutorial 03 - Switching
    <kuid2:212731:8000:6> Rovato freight transport
    <kuid2:300193:100229:14> Rush Hour
    <kuid2:605579:100280:1> The Boxcar Collector
    <kuid2:661281:110015:12> Tutorial 02 - Junctions
    <kuid2:661281:110020:9> Tutorial 07 - Realistic Mode
    <kuid2:661281:110021:7> Tutorial 08 - Train Brake
    <kuid2:661281:110022:5> Tutorial 09 - Dynamic Brake
    <kuid2:212731:500117:3> USATC S160 Class Steam
    <kuid2:605579:100453:4> Work in St Erth
    <kuid2:605579:100536:3> Work on the Falmouth Docks Branch

    Regards
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