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    Quote Originally Posted by jcbeytien View Post
    I edited the original Timber Ridge Line as well, except it was version three. It's now available on the DLS.
    Your version "Timber Ridge Railroad" does not include the 30" gauge route through Redtop nor the 36" gauge section up through Tollume Pass. It is in fact based on Klinger's original Timber Ridge Line, however, after losing an update to corruption Klinger rebuilt the entire route as <kuid2:119493:1206:3> Timber Ridge Line which is available on the DLS (build 2.6). Klinger refers to this route as TRLv4. This is the version that Dan is working on and the version I've modified and shown many screenshots of.

    BTW Dan I fully agree with the removal/replacement of buildings higher than three stories except in Prowler, I did the same. I also agree that the towns need outlying structures, cabins, boarding houses, livery stables, and etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangavel View Post
    just some quick progress shots, a lot of it doesn't look much like the old timber ridge, so be it !


    remodeled redtop !
    Your Redtop and my Redtop don't have too many similarities.



    Although I'm definitely going to plagiarize your second street with the cabins along it and reduce the number and size of the buildings more. (trees in background are one of many experiments)
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    Quote Originally Posted by normhart View Post
    Your Redtop and my Redtop don't have too many similarities.



    Although I'm definitely going to plagiarize your second street with the cabins along it and reduce the number and size of the buildings more. (trees in background are one of many experiments)
    I never liked the bridge to nowhere and it seemed unnatural for the town to be raised ( although really the reason i lowered it was I couldn't be bothered to add the cliff :-)

    i note we both replaced the engine shed with one of Pencils sheds, its not completed yet, probably sage on the top of the hill and more scrubby trees in the background. A lot of these little towsn are too grand for the setting,when i think of these place think Chama or Antonito more than Dodge city :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jordon412 View Post
    @dangavel
    I hope you put this on the DLS as I'd like to download this to my edition of TRS19. I already like the original version of Timber Ridge Line, and I'd like to have the version you're making.
    My intention is to put it on the DLS Jordan, the biggest issue is that for a lot of areas one would need the the JVC trees Rocky mountain set which was payware ( i do not know if this still applies to this set as a lot of his stuff has now become freeware ) and I also used some of co71s trees which you would need to get from his site.
    I can make a version without these trees but as they are largely groups used in hilly territory which saves a lot of time, it may look a bit weird if they were replaced by other trees , as they may be below ground or floating in the air. I'm using trees form the DLS now as much as I can for this new additional rebuild, and will contact JVC and see what status his rocky mountain set is now he has retired from tree making. His stuff looks a lot better then a lot of the DLS items.
    I also used a fair few of the Donner pass textures of Jangos, I probably got them from Trainz Italia , but I cannot remember if these are now freeware or if they are now on the DLS , I'm replacing stuff I'm unsure of with my textures where possible, but this may be a bit of a problem as there a lot of them all over the place and I'm quite happy to use them on my own copy of the route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by normhart View Post
    Your version "Timber Ridge Railroad" does not include the 30" gauge route through Redtop nor the 36" gauge section up through Tollume Pass. It is in fact based on Klinger's original Timber Ridge Line, however, after losing an update to corruption Klinger rebuilt the entire route as <kuid2:119493:1206:3> Timber Ridge Line which is available on the DLS (build 2.6). Klinger refers to this route as TRLv4. This is the version that Dan is working on and the version I've modified and shown many screenshots of.

    BTW Dan I fully agree with the removal/replacement of buildings higher than three stories except in Prowler, I did the same. I also agree that the towns need outlying structures, cabins, boarding houses, livery stables, and etc.
    Yes i did the same thing as Josh , worked for about 6 months on the shorter route and then had to merge the two portions into one or i'd have lsot all the new work I'd done .its an easy mistake to make .
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    Good news jvc is going to upload his rocky mountain set on the Dls soon , bad news I am going to have to cut down my computer use as I’m very stressed at the moment and need to lower my blood pressure, so progress will be a lot slower on getting this completed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangavel View Post
    Good news jvc is going to upload his rocky mountain set on the Dls soon , bad news I am going to have to cut down my computer use as I’m very stressed at the moment and need to lower my blood pressure, so progress will be a lot slower on getting this completed.
    You do know that hobbies are supposed to reduce stress not increase it. Go outside, sit on a stump, and watch the grass grow, that's my cure for about anything.
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    Dangavel and Normhart,
    I really love everything y'all are doing with this route. It looks fantastic in all the screenshots that both of you are posting.

    I'm sorry to hear of Dan's rising blood pressure though. I've found that just running AI trains and sightseeing on various routes has a very calming effect on me, but then again, I'm not creating and planning in surveyor much. I've found that playing around in Surveyor does tend to be a bit stressful, so Dan, please, take it a bit easier. Artists tend to be much harder on themselves when it comes to "getting things just right." I can easily say that I'd be thrilled with what you've already come up with, because I know I don't have the skill sets to make it all look so cool. And it already does. The screenies show a very convincing route. If you can swing those JVC trees, then that is going to be icing on the cake, so to speak.

    I'm getting the biggest kick out of just viewing your progress Dan, on this and your Unitah route. Believe me, you are "getting things just right" with all your efforts.

    Norm has something there about watching the grass grow, but I've also found that watching paint dry can be just as theraputic, and you get the added benefit of the paint smell.

    Take it easy Dan, and get well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinrich505 View Post
    Dangavel and Normhart,
    I really love everything y'all are doing with this route. It looks fantastic in all the screenshots that both of you are posting.

    I'm sorry to hear of Dan's rising blood pressure though. I've found that just running AI trains and sightseeing on various routes has a very calming effect on me, but then again, I'm not creating and planning in surveyor much. I've found that playing around in Surveyor does tend to be a bit stressful, so Dan, please, take it a bit easier. Artists tend to be much harder on themselves when it comes to "getting things just right." I can easily say that I'd be thrilled with what you've already come up with, because I know I don't have the skill sets to make it all look so cool. And it already does. The screenies show a very convincing route. If you can swing those JVC trees, then that is going to be icing on the cake, so to speak.

    I'm getting the biggest kick out of just viewing your progress Dan, on this and your Unitah route. Believe me, you are "getting things just right" with all your efforts.

    Norm has something there about watching the grass grow, but I've also found that watching paint dry can be just as theraputic, and you get the added benefit of the paint smell.

    Take it easy Dan, and get well.

    Heinrich505
    Thanks guys, the stress is because we are trying to rent after owning our own place for many years, as we are rebuilding our house, the process is getting on top of me a bit, as it involves lots of documents and references from people etc and applying online which is complex, so have to wind back for next few weeks and just slow down a bit. We have to get somewhere rented for a year and get over the uncertainty and then I'll feel better , I do tend to rush around a lot more then i should and so now doing some relaxing , just taking it more easy and i feel better already, BP is lower as stress recedes.
    I will go steady and slow on the timber ridge , I was going at it frantically for some reason, probably stress. Its cool that JVC is going to make those rocky mt trees freeware as they are very nice. I made a trailer park for Prower last night , apparently they were a big thing after the war years as there were so few houses being built , its on the wrong side of the tracks near the NG line, when they started they were nearly always situated in dingy areas, then became very respectable in the late 50s and into the 60s before becoming less so in more recent times. .
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    Hi,

    Very nice looking route. I had it under TRS2004 and look forward to getting both of the versions mentioned in this thread.

    Don't forget you can use the Bulk asset update and replace panel to replace ground textures too. Leave the "Replace ground texture roatation and scale" option unchecked and the new texture inherits those from the old texture.

    As to trailers, after the war was over, aluminum was all the rage in the States. Both mobile homes and travel trailers were built from it. People even covered their houses with aluminum siding. The fad faded when plastic and vinyl materials began to be used in the 70s. I was surprised myself when I traveled through the narrow gauge areas of the west on road trips a few years ago at how many mobile homes are located in the remote areas. For a long time they were very cheap to buy at about $20,000 USD but like all things they have gotten really high now but are so much better built.

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    here you go in case you missed it on Jan thread, grab them whilst you can , i am only using the rocky mountain sets and am working on the route in TANE SP3 .
    RELEASE OF previous JVC PAYWARE (2010-2016), first release (the next will be next thursday at 5:00 pm CET).
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    Pls. note:

    1. The payware was made for TANE, TRS 10 and TRS 12, and some of it MAY work in TRS 19
    2. If you want to upgrade it, refer to me as the original creator. You may change the logo.
    3. I have not time to assist if you want to upgrade/fix the content, you are on your own, so pls don't send any requests for help
    4. You may upload the upgraded/fixed content to DLS, remember to change the 'licence' to freeware (from payware)
    5. You may NOT sell the content but you can use it as content in a payware route/layout
    6. Pls do only download once and save it on your device/cloud
    7. Enjoy if you got it to work...

    THE CONTENT (click links to download), available for approx. 48 hours.
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    For TS10&12 Only ST-2 PACK LINK
    For TS10&12 Only ST-3 PACK LINK
    For TS10&12 Only ST-4 PACK LINK

    For TANE only (some of it may work in TRS19) RM-1 Rocky mountain PACK 1 LINK
    For TANE only (some of it may work in TRS19) RM-2 Rocky mountain PACK 2 LINK

    To be continued next thursday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wreeder View Post
    Hi,

    Very nice looking route. I had it under TRS2004 and look forward to getting both of the versions mentioned in this thread.

    Don't forget you can use the Bulk asset update and replace panel to replace ground textures too. Leave the "Replace ground texture roatation and scale" option unchecked and the new texture inherits those from the old texture.

    William
    yeah its very useful, i'll have to be careful tho as some areas have complex blends which may look cruddy when textures are changed so will only do it in sections , not the whole route.
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    worked on the Tollume Pass section and then ran some trains.












    the route gradually moves from Cumbres and Toltec Tanglefoot curve type vegetation to more lush Aspen Spruce country with denser forest. I am glad i did work on the Cumbres and Toltec for about a year as its really helpful when it comes to working on this route as i have lots of textures from that route ready to use here. The advantage is, its much less of a Herculean task to compete this route than a really big route like the C&T





    still some more vegetation to add in parts of this section but it close to completion . i love the aspen group i'm using as it covers up spaces really well and is very easy to use on steep ground, I wish there was a 'confirm to ground height " option to use with groups of grass and trees as it could save thousands of hours by route builders getting each item to be close to or below uneven ground.






    I have added some mines at Tollume to make it actually worth going there , the logging alone didnt seem enough to warrant all that work on the line:-) trees are JVC rm collection . Lots more to do on this snowy section as its a bit boring at the moment.Sadly there's a dearth of US snow covered objects apart from the Rollins Pass items which aren't on the DLS . I have considered raising the very last section past Tollume itself so its at true snow height and removing some of the snow covering lower down the route as without snow covered objects its not all that convincing.
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    I added a dam to make the last part of the snow covered route more interesting and will throw in a few other things on this bit of the line. I also am going to swop the trees over to ?winter trees as they give a better frame rate and look better overall as the jvc winter trees are so snow heavy they cannot be seen very well on a snowy background.
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    Dangavel,
    The bridge shots are great. Your work is really looking fantastic!

    At this point, I can't tell if I like the snow scene shots more than the non-snow scene shots - they are both so nice-looking. The long trestle shots are pretty amazing.

    I guess I missed the time frame for the JVC Rocky Mountain release though. Doggone real life - it was a busy week. I'll have to make sure I check next Thursday.

    Which engines were you using in the above shots? They really fit the scene nicely. Really wonderful work on this route!

    Heinrich505

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