Trainz 2019 & Jointed Rail Content...

Rik3801T

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Hi All,

I need some advice please as I'm at a mental crossroads again about what to do regarding Trainz. Due to a HDD crash which corrupted most of what I had in TRS2010, I gave up trying to resurrect the past and just go with the latest version of Trainz (TRS19) and effectively start again *sigh*. But, I am wondering if it is still possible to locate and download TRS10, but with the latest Build Number as opposed to having to download the base version and then locate all the TRS10 Patches/ Build Numbers to get it back to where it was, before my old hard disk crashed.

Before you say anything, I did back up all my files, so in theory it should all have worked, right? Sadly not. I downloaded the Base version off the CD, and then attempted to reinstall all the patches/ Build Number updates and found that Content Manager could not recognise the file formats at all. When I tried to reinstall all my content and my route/ maps, these were deemed to be "broken and/ or missing". A few hundred expletives were uttered and I gave up. When I logged into the Trainz Portal, I could not locate a digital download of TRS10 (I recently moved house and the CD is nowhere to be found sadly). Is TRS10 now too old to be downloaded through official sources or must I look elsewhere? Most Google searches suggest downloading it from the Trainz Portal so a bit confused there.

Anyway, I recently downloaded a copy of TRS19 and am impressed with what I've seen so far. But, a lot of the freeware content I've downloaded from Jointed Rail today, appears in Red Text in Surveyor mode. Great. Back to the bad old days of incompatible content! I'm downloading the dependencies in the hope of getting much of what I want to use, to work properly. The weird thing is that some of the JR freeware content works fine, but others don't. I'd have thought that JR content would be compatible with TRS19 by now given that this new version is not that new.

So, what do you suggest? Is it worth locating & getting TRS10 to work now, or just "86 it" altogether and bugger it off, or settle for TRS19 and make the most of it? I don't want to delete all my old TRS10 content and routes in case there is a way, but I've not been encouraged so far. Are there other additional content sites out there which cater for TRS19, or is it just too new?

Thanks for reading and appreciate any help you can offer.

Cheers,

Rik
 
Anyway, I recently downloaded a copy of TRS19 and am impressed with what I've seen so far. But, a lot of the freeware content I've downloaded from Jointed Rail today, appears in Red Text in Surveyor mode. Great. Back to the bad old days of incompatible content! I'm downloading the dependencies in the hope of getting much of what I want to use, to work properly. The weird thing is that some of the JR freeware content works fine, but others don't. I'd have thought that JR content would be compatible with TRS19 by now given that this new version is not that new.
Out of curiosity- what kinds of content from our site is not working in TRS19? Only a couple people on the team actually use it, but it would be good to know what kind of content is being broken by the latest version of the game.
 
My guess is that you've copied the items over rather than downloaded the paywar/builtin routes and therefore the items have no textures. This wouldbe true if you are talking about JR DLC purchased from SimC.

The correct process is to download the DLC first, then import your modified content. If you imported cdps over the top of existing DLC items, then revert to original will set the built-in items back to their correct state.
 
There are some older locomotives that might need some easy fixes.

These all can be repaired in the config.txt files very easily:

For errors referring to Texture-Kuid "-", use a search and replace and replace Texture-Kuid "-" with a space to delete that line.

For errors referring to fuel and sand not being a whole number - it's a lot more wordy than that, but that's what the blah, blah, techy stuff means, simple get rid of the decimal places. I rounded up the numbers since they are beyond .5

That's about it for the locomotives that I've come across.

Hope this helps.
 
These are what come up as Faulty in my TRS19 Build Version 100240/
Faulty in Coal Country
<kuid:103475:37012> (TS12) Grass Dark Green Broad
<kuid:103475:37009> (TS12) Grass Dark Green narrow
<kuid:103475:37011> (TS12) Grass Dry Green Broad
<kuid:175455:101307> JR Diamond River Mining Co. Engine House
<kuid:175455:101308> JR Diamond River Mining Co. Truck Loader
<kuid:175455:101326> JR DRM Co. Rail Scale
<kuid:175455:101318> JR DRM Co. Small Scale House
<kuid2:9999:921461:1> wood 11
<kuid2:283523:22050:1> Logs - Stack 4.2m long
<kuid:267178:1457> Z Rock 13
<kuid:106916:10419> Fence Wood Barrier
<kuid:9999:921460> wood 10
<kuid:9999:921463> wood 13

Faulty in Eagle River
<kuid:103475:37012> (TS12) Grass Dark Green Broad
<kuid:103475:37011> (TS12) Grass Dry Green Broad
<kuid:103475:37018> VR Stockyard Cattle Fence
<kuid:175455:101307> JR Diamond River Mining Co. Engine House
<kuid:175455:101318> JR DRM Co. Small Scale House
<kuid:175455:100982> JR Loading Tower
<kuid:487560:24800> Relay Box Universal
<kuid2:103475:28029:2> VR 30ft Coal Stage
<kuid:378673:100054> Grass texture 02
<kuid2:283523:22050:1> Logs - Stack 4.2m long
<kuid2:35412:28261:1> S&C oil storage tanks
<kuid:106916:10419> Fence Wood Barrier
<kuid2:328583:3822:2> JVC(M)Hedgerow#2a w/trees & shrubs

~James~
 
What kind of errors?

I recommend a database repair and perhaps highlighting the assets and choosing revert to original.

I have both routes installed in TRS19 and in T:ANE and no problems in either version.
 
I've tried all those before to no avail. These are what is showing under "view errors"
Faulty in Coal Country
<kuid:103475:37012> (TS12) Grass Dark Green Broad
- <kuid:103475:37012> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass-grass.texture'.
- <kuid:103475:37012> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass_lod1-grass_lod1.texture'.
- <kuid:103475:37012> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass_lod2-grass_lod2.texture'.

<kuid:103475:37009> (TS12) Grass Dark Green narrow
- <kuid:103475:37009> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass-grass.texture'.
- <kuid:103475:37009> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass_lod1-grass_lod1.texture'.
- <kuid:103475:37009> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass_lod2-grass_lod2.texture'.

<kuid:103475:37011> (TS12) Grass Dry Green Broad
- <kuid:103475:37011> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass-grass.texture'.
- <kuid:103475:37011> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass_lod1-grass_lod1.texture'.
- <kuid:103475:37011> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass_lod2-grass_lod2.texture'.

<kuid:175455:101307> JR Diamond River Mining Co. Engine House
- <kuid:175455:101307> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'animesheddoor.texture'.
- <kuid:175455:101307> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'lightfix.texture'.
- <kuid:175455:101307> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'pioneerengineshed.texture'.
- <kuid:175455:101307> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'standoor.texture'.
- <kuid:175455:101307> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'winglass-winglass.texture'.

<kuid:175455:101308> JR Diamond River Mining Co. Truck Loader
- <kuid:175455:101308> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'lightfix.texture'.
- <kuid:175455:101308> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'rooftophvac.texture'.
- <kuid:175455:101308> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'standoor.texture'.
- <kuid:175455:101308> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'truckloadermain.texture'.

<kuid:175455:101326> JR DRM Co. Rail Scale
- <kuid:175455:101326> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'railscale.texture'.

<kuid:175455:101318> JR DRM Co. Small Scale House
- <kuid:175455:101318> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'lightfix.texture'.
- <kuid:175455:101318> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'smallscalehouse-smallscalehouse.texture'.
- <kuid:175455:101318> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'smallscalehouse.texture'.

<kuid2:9999:921461:1> wood 11
- <kuid2:9999:921461:1> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'wood_11.texture'.
- <kuid2:9999:921461:1> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'wood_11_normal.texture'.

<kuid2:283523:22050:1> Logs - Stack 4.2m long
- <kuid2:283523:22050:1> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'shadow-shadow.texture'.
- <kuid2:283523:22050:1> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'stakes.texture'.
- <kuid2:283523:22050:1> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'woodst.texture'.

<kuid:267178:1457> Z Rock 13
- <kuid:267178:1457> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'z_rock_13.texture'.

<kuid:106916:10419> Fence Wood Barrier
- <kuid:106916:10419> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'divider/main.texture'.
- <kuid:106916:10419> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'initiator/main.texture'.
- <kuid:106916:10419> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'main.texture'.
- <kuid:106916:10419> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'terminator/main.texture'.

<kuid:9999:921460> wood 10
- <kuid:9999:921460> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'wood_10.texture'.

<kuid:9999:921463> wood 13
- <kuid:9999:921463> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'wood_13.texture'.


Faulty in Eagle River
<kuid:103475:37012> (TS12) Grass Dark Green Broad
<kuid:103475:37011> (TS12) Grass Dry Green Broad
<kuid:103475:37018> VR Stockyard Cattle Fence
- <kuid:103475:37018> SplineSpec29::precache> Failed to generate collision data for VR Stockyard Cattle Fence - <kuid:103475:37018>
- <kuid:103475:37018> SplineSpec29::precache> Failed to generate collision data for VR Stockyard Cattle Fence - <kuid:103475:37018>

<kuid:175455:101307> JR Diamond River Mining Co. Engine House
<kuid:175455:101318> JR DRM Co. Small Scale House
<kuid:175455:100982> JR Loading Tower
<kuid:487560:24800> Relay Box Universal
- <kuid:487560:24800> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'relay box.texture'.

<kuid2:103475:28029:2> VR 30ft Coal Stage
- <kuid2:103475:28029:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'coal.texture'.
- <kuid2:103475:28029:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'coalman/main.texture'.
- <kuid2:103475:28029:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'low-low.texture'.
- <kuid2:103475:28029:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'main-normals.texture'.
- <kuid2:103475:28029:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'main.texture'.

<kuid:378673:100054> Grass texture 02
- <kuid:378673:100054> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'grass 02.texture'.

<kuid2:283523:22050:1> Logs - Stack 4.2m long
<kuid2:35412:28261:1> S&C oil storage tanks
- <kuid2:35412:28261:1> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'main_0.texture'.
- <kuid2:35412:28261:1> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'storage_tank_base.texture'.

<kuid:106916:10419> Fence Wood Barrier
<kuid2:328583:3822:2> JVC(M)Hedgerow#2a w/trees & shrubs
- <kuid2:328583:3822:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'hedgerow-shrub-hedgerow-shrub.texture'.
- <kuid2:328583:3822:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'hedgerow-tree-hedgerow-tree.texture'.
- <kuid2:328583:3822:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'hedgerow-tree2-hedgerow-tree2.texture'.
- <kuid2:328583:3822:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'hedgerow2-hedgerow2.texture'.
- <kuid2:328583:3822:2> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'hedgerow3-hedgerow3.texture'.

~James~
 
These appear to be built-ins from packages.

Did you get the Coal Country route from Jointed Rail, or did you get it from N3V as DLC?

I need to know in order to help you because there's two different methods for repair here.
 
Out of curiosity- what kinds of content from our site is not working in TRS19? Only a couple people on the team actually use it, but it would be good to know what kind of content is being broken by the latest version of the game.
Huh

So this is why when I asked back in Jan what you all Trainz 19 plans were, and basically was told "expect a post soon! and more content on site!"

I never saw that post. I never saw anything on JR expect more Club Car items. Never saw any JR staff reply. You all seem very hate filled towards 19 for some reason.

So I guess the 2-3 people I see posting SS of JR stuff in 19 are the only 2-3 people with 19?

Sad day. Day a legend died because they have a grudge. I also knew a red flag was up when 19 got released and months went by without a "Trainz 19 and JR thread" like there is for T:ANE
 
Huh

So this is why when I asked back in Jan what you all Trainz 19 plans were, and basically was told "expect a post soon! and more content on site!"

I never saw that post. I never saw anything on JR expect more Club Car items. Never saw any JR staff reply. You all seem very hate filled towards 19 for some reason.

So I guess the 2-3 people I see posting SS of JR stuff in 19 are the only 2-3 people with 19?

Sad day. Day a legend died because they have a grudge. I also knew a red flag was up when 19 got released and months went by without a "Trainz 19 and JR thread" like there is for T:ANE
Please explain … I tried to read and interpret … But only made my brain hurt … What are you trying to get across ? What exactly is: "posting SS of JR stuff" ? OK Screenshot's ?
 
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Huh

So this is why when I asked back in Jan what you all Trainz 19 plans were, and basically was told "expect a post soon! and more content on site!"

I never saw that post. I never saw anything on JR expect more Club Car items. Never saw any JR staff reply. You all seem very hate filled towards 19 for some reason.

So I guess the 2-3 people I see posting SS of JR stuff in 19 are the only 2-3 people with 19?

Sad day. Day a legend died because they have a grudge. I also knew a red flag was up when 19 got released and months went by without a "Trainz 19 and JR thread" like there is for T:ANE

What?

If you have a question by all means ask it, but do not project your ridiculous assertions as fact. Nobody at JR is "hate filled towards 19" nor do "they have a grudge" about it. I don't know if you have noticed it, but we released a lot of content in TRS19 which is one of the reasons things were slow here on the forum and also at the site. As TRS19 becomes more honed and refined you will likely see more dedicated projects for it.
 
I currently have

Coal Country
Eagle River Railway
Legacy of the Burlington Northern
Legacy of the Burlington Northern v2
Mojave Sub Division
Fort Liberty Transportation Unit
Pennsylvania & Berwind Phase 1
Monongahela & Western Pennsylvania

installed in TRS19 without problems.
 
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What?

If you have a question by all means ask it, but do not project your ridiculous assertions as fact. Nobody at JR is "hate filled towards 19" nor do "they have a grudge" about it. I don't know if you have noticed it, but we released a lot of content in TRS19 which is one of the reasons things were slow here on the forum and also at the site. As TRS19 becomes more honed and refined you will likely see more dedicated projects for it.


I did ask back in Jan, never got one.

Nice to get one now. SoonTM.

EDIT: Aka a Roadmap is what I was expecting to see & find basically. I do apologize, Sorry.
 
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roadmap of previous post

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Well as far as TRS2010 goes, theres a bunch of them available on Ebay pretty cheap and brand new. I picked up a 2009/2010 duel pack, was the latest builds for each and I dont think I spent
more than $15. US for it. If you really wanna run 2010 again Id suggest looking at Ebay.

Good luck,

Clair
 
I purchased Coal Country and Eagle River direct from JR site.
I also have some Locos purchased directly from JR which are working well in TRS19.
I also have Legacy of the Burlington Northern v2 which I purchased through N3V as DLC. Legacy of the Burlington Northern v2 has no errors or faults currently.
I have Pennsylvania & Berwind Phase 1 content purchased through JR which I have not tried to install in TRS19 given the issue with Coal Country and Eagle River.
Plus Approach Medium hasn't tested the route in TRS19 so I have not installed the route yet.

TRS19 Session Faults
<kuid:103021:100911> 70ton AAR Flatcar PM - Coal Service Session
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/70ton_flatcar_norm-70ton_flatcar_norm.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/70ton_flatcar_sp-70ton_flatcar_sp.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/airhose.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/digit_2.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/digit_3.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/digit_4.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/digit_5.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/digit_6.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/gshadow-gshadow.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/woodplanks_diff-woodplanks_diff.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_body/woodplanks_norm-woodplanks_norm.texture'.
- <kuid:103021:100911> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'flatcar_stakes/woodstakes-woodstakes.texture'.

The Driver 'Juan' <kuid:523:19723441> Juan for the session Sunday Passenger Excursion for Eagle River is also Faulty.
- <kuid:523:19723441> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'driver64.texture'.

DriverJuan Mesh error
- <kuid:523:19723442> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'body.texture'.
- <kuid:523:19723442> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'head.texture'.

Drivers:
Evgeniy
- <kuid:523:19723427> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'driver64.texture'.

Guriga,
- <kuid2:32246:35000:1> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'guriga.texture'.

and Wazza.
- <kuid2:447264:999:1> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'wazza64.texture'.

In TANE Build 94916 this asset shows as faulty: <kuid2:124017:20110:4> Rockslide Detector Fencing. Which is used in those Routes.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'fencing-fencing.texture'.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'insulator.texture'.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'rockslide-fence_end/fencing_end-fencing_end.texture'.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'rockslide-fence_start/concrete.texture'.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'rockslide-fence_start/fencing-fencing.texture'.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'rockslide-fence_start/insulator.texture'.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'rockslide-fence_start/pole.texture'.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'rockslide-fence_start/rusty.texture'.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'rockslide-fence_start/signalbox.texture'.
- <kuid2:124017:20110:4> VE65: The *.texture.txt file is missing for texture resource 'rusty.texture'.
Surprisingly enough this asset is fine in TRS19.

~James~
 
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Check if the affected assets will revert to original as it sounds like you've overwritten some built-in content in the import process.

Shane
 
I would like to be able to say with certainty how to fix all the aforementioned errors but I can only suggest instead of attempting to revert the content, to delete or otherwise remove the faulty assets from content manager and re-import the related CDP files. That missing texture.txt bug is one I've encountered hundreds of times before exclusively with assets flagged as 'payware' and purging them followed by a fresh copy has (typically) worked in lieu of database rebuilds. There's another very tedious way of getting past it but it involves a lot of text file creation and config manipulation for the amount of assets you've got listed.

I can't advise on the collision data for "<kuid:103475:37018> VR Stockyard Cattle Fence" as that isn't one of our assets anyone at JR can do anything about, except to suggest the same delete + reinstall method.

That worthless payware tag causes far more trouble than it's worth in my opinion, and it's ridiculously easy to bypass when the content is installed and listed as 'inactive' anyways...
 
I have looked through my archived download files and I do not have the individual CDP of these. They were installed as part of the content packs. If I delete the offending assets then re-install the large content CDP isn't it possible that that will overwrite other non error content which may then become corrupted? Then it could be an even larger mess.

These errors have been a problem from the day the content was installed. You'all don't support your routes for TRS19 so I didn't mention these issues.
I figured someday when you all got around to supporting TRS19 they would go away. I keep checking. But you asked so I posted them.

I am reluctant to delve into the config file etc. I have done that in older versions of Trainz and in some cases it works and in others it has made the issue worse.

I have had a love/hate relationship with Trainz for years. Especially when trying to build routes! But it is currently the only game in town for route building.
I like some of the effects in TRS19 for route building but pull out large chunks of hair.
If you texture with Shaders on Ultra some things look weird during motion. If you don't have enough VRAM to run Ultra Shaders then the height of the ground is wrong when built in Ultra then displayed in lower setting which create funky shadows. ARRRRRRR.

But I digress, TMI, Sorry.

~James~
 
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