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Thread: 15 years of Trainzing. Thoughts and reflections.

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    Good old Narrowgauge here.

    John, I joined in November 2001 and have remained 'hooked' for the following 17 years. I have often wondered, what is it about Trainz that engenders such loyalty.

    Bear with me, I have a theory.

    I think that in many humans, there is an instinct or urge to create.

    So , if like me they can't sing, dance, paint, sculpt, write books, whatever, Trainz allows people with no significant creative skills to create something they can look at and say "I made that" with the added bonus that others can share and enjoy the creation. Trainz should not be classed as a game, it is beyond that, it is a creative hobby, almost an ART, if you consider the infinite variations that can be created, distributed and admired.

    Calling Trainz a game does it no favours, it is an Art Facilitator, sadly, not a marketable name

    If it was a competitive game, I would not be here now.

    I'll get of my pulprit now.

    Peter
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    I started off with the original Trainz myself and continued buying every version that followed. The big one was Trainz 2004. It was the first one that had steam locomotives. I continued buying every edition. Trainz 2009 was the last one I could buy at a store. Since then I've bought them all from N3V as the boxed version. Trainz 2010 was the one that got me interested into driving sessions and began to learn how to use surveyor. I also found that I enjoy switching along with driving trains from one place on a route to another. It was also then that I found third-party websites, the Download Station, and The Forums. Trainz 12 was the first version that I tried Cab mode in. The first pieces of content I made was made in Trainz 12. When TANE first came out, my computer could barely handle it, but then I got a new computer that could handle TANE and I've never turned back. Another thing that came with TANE was the tutorial that taught you how to drive a steam locomotive in Cab mode, something that was not included in any other version of Trainz. The custom HUD being a standard feature of all sessions was a big improvement over previous editions of Trainz. I'm hoping to scrape up enough money to get a new video card to handle TRS19. Also, it wasn't until last week that I finally decided to take on the tutorial on how to drive a steam locomotive in Cab mode and found myself to be much better at it than I expected.
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    @ Narrowgauge.

    I couldn't agree more with you !

    (but not about you getting off your pulpit)

    I have a friend in Germany and we communicate by email weekly.

    A couple of weeks ago I sent him a screenshot from TANE that I made.

    His reply was to call me Künstler Graham.
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    Post #16. I couldn't agree more Peter.
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    Well stated ......... all . Yea , I've always enjoyed the see what I can come up with , in VR , real world and in work . But to do in Trainz has been vary gratifying in ways I never counted on .

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    Congratulations to John and all who have "kept the faith", sometimes through some very testing times. Many of the stories told in this thread have echoed mine - the stress release, the island of stability and calm in a world seemingly filled with chaos, the support in these forums from fellow travellers who are never strangers (despite our sometimes disagreements).

    It is easy to see why this franchise has endured, and survived its "Auran-Fury" disaster which would have killed off many similar sized enterprises, its supporters are so passionate about this hobby (sorry, "way of life").

    Despite its many "hiccups", Trainz just gets better and better with age - like a good red wine. Have an extra glass this New Years Day.

    Peter
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    and yet I think we probably owe more to John Banks than anyone else since it was he who managed to meld the community together which is a very important part of Trainz.


    Cheerio John

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwhelan View Post
    and yet I think we probably owe more to John Banks...
    Who? John Banks, who's he? is it this John Banks? http://www.bigandtallmenswear.co.uk/

    Rob.

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    I have just pulled out of storage all my Trainz Reciepts, and My first one is dated 4/12.2001.
    And I could not wait for it to be posted so arranged to go and collect it from their office, in those days they were located in the Wool Stores (at Newstead I think).
    Of course, since then I've had all the Versions along the way! now have just installed 2019 Ver.
    How-ever I don't spend as much time on the PC now, I guess old age and Health issues have slowed me down.

    So Cheers to you all and a Happy New Year.

    NormP

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    I had also initially came across MSTS and bought it but was not that impressed with the way the thing was laid out and the limitations. Did use it for a while and bought a couple of routes as well as from a site here in GB. So thought I would have a searcg for others and by sheer chance discovered the then "Auran" Trainz. For my less than techy mind figured I would have something more ambitious and bought TRS04. Although not as long of course as John TRS6 was a big improvement on the MSTS thing. So got ambitious for a limited newbie and as they came along went up to 6 then 10 etc. It gave me the chance to do something I could not have done with Microsoft's clunky way of doing things. Got really hooked and off an on thought I would do a bit of Glasgow's long done away with tram system killed in 1962. Never thought would ever do the whole thing but Trainz had me hooked and off and on with gaps finally had 250 odd boards covering the 140 odd former miles (that is still to be uploaded!). One man just over the city boundary from me got quite taken on with my website and drove into the city to get a copy for himself.

    N. Ireland was the next attempt as the Province had the most worst rail closures in the UK re the old Nationalisation there. Never thought I would get the 5 lines or the "temporarily" suspended routes done and the longest from Belfast-Londonderry made me wonder if I had got ambitious like king Canute who thought he could do in tides. My ambition continued when got to the Border and after arguing with myself decided to get more ambitious and extend into the IRail to Dublin and a passenger line of it. Still have a scenery gap to fill in between Dundalk and north of Drogheda but health and other things had put me off but now crawling back to try and compete the largest effort anyone has done for over the Irish Sea in a modern situation.

    To me personally although had been a very active person in my last job and community efforts getting the opportunity of doing my city's long gone tramway (had been largest outside London) and a joy for me as a boy (even had an uncle who was a tram driver and a hero) had got a ginat sketch map from the annual Scottish Model Rail Show in the city as a great help. Ulster had been the base of many family holidays as a boy and as an adult taking BB camps there for years as well as distant relations to see so determined to get that part of Gt Britain on the Trainz world map! Could not have done either on MSTS and I am so happy to have searched for an alternative far wider and more brilliant train simulator.

    It was in every day life even better than kissing a beautiful woman and done that a few times (lucky lassies in Glasgow and one in Ulster!). Now getting back to my Irish effort and well done to the creators of Trainz putting kissing into the right order............
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    I had MSTS and messed around with it for a while. I wasn't impressed at all. One day, I was in Wally World and picked up a copy of TRS2006. It sat on a shelf unopened for maybe six months. I was thinking this is probably just a MSTS clone. Then, one day I was bored so I installed it. The rest is history. It's been my favorite simulator ever since.

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    Congrats John. Great story.

    Mine is very mundane in comparison. There was a small shop in the local mall that sold PC games and such. I was browsing and saw TRS2004 on the shelf. "Got to be better than MSTS", I thought.

    So I grabbed it and the rest is history.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by robd View Post
    Who? John Banks, who's he? is it this John Banks? http://www.bigandtallmenswear.co.uk/

    Rob.
    He wrote his PhD on community created content for games and ran the Auran forums for awhile. What he did was to create the Trainz community as such and support the content creators and it was the community created content that really differentiated Trainz from the other sims.

    Cheerio John

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    I provided some material for Johns PhD. Thats back in the day when us old farts were really part of the Aurun team. It was a lot of fun.

    Cheers,
    John
    Creator of the Clinchfield Project and a TrainzProRoutes founding member

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