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    Deleted. Never post while feeling ill or depressed.
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    Get fed up of banging my head against a brick wall Annie.

    Consensus of opinion by most of those that never working in the industry. Is that they know better, not everyone of course though.

    I spent most of today, after cloning the route. Stripping back all the jungle from trackside. Swapping out the modern platforms for earlier period ones.

    Deleting bi-directional signage. The route was never bi-directional running in BR days, never mind GWR.

    Need some GWR ATC ramps though, AWS did not completely replace ATC until the 1970's and a good percentage of loco's were dual fitted.

    Take care Annie.

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    Well thank you all for your very kind comments such as "A chance to create a proper accurate 1930s GWR experience on the historic Cornish mainline and a total mess was made of it. 'Nobody wants a history lesson'. - that kind of attitude is just so bloody typical." If you don't want to use it, then don't. I can only create what I can see on Google Earth and find by on-line research. I put plenty of stuff on the Forum (see: https://forums.auran.com/trainz/show...nline+branches ) throughout its development where you could have made some constructive comments and perhaps even helped me with some of your 'in-depth' working knowledge of the Route. But I guess for some it is easier to whinge than to be constructive. By the way, the Route was totally freeware - I did not make a cent from it. The sessions were not created by me.

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    I used to love this thread - but recently we have a member possibly breaking some forum rules.
    If referring to people in pejorative manner generally or specifically it is possible that a rule or rule(s) have been broken and if this is the case then I encourage N3V to take some action - yes! I am personally offended and feel for the good folks the language is directed at as I have a great respect for them.

    A pejorative (also called a derogatory term,[1] a slur, a term of disparagement) is a word or grammatical form expressing a negative connotation or a low opinion of someone or something, showing a lack of respect for someone or something.[2] It is also used to express criticism, hostility, or disregard. Sometimes, a term is regarded as pejorative in some social or ethnic groups but not in others, or may be originally pejorative and eventually be adopted in a non-pejorative sense (or vice versa) in some or all contexts.
    Name slurs can also involve an insulting or disparaging innuendo,[3] rather than being a direct pejorative. In some cases, a person's name can be redefined with an unpleasant or insulting meaning, or be applied to a group of people considered by anyone to be inferior or lower in social class, as a group label with a disparaging meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert3a0 View Post
    Well thank you all for your very kind comments such as "A chance to create a proper accurate 1930s GWR experience on the historic Cornish mainline and a total mess was made of it. 'Nobody wants a history lesson'. - that kind of attitude is just so bloody typical." If you don't want to use it, then don't. I can only create what I can see on Google Earth and find by on-line research. I put plenty of stuff on the Forum (see: https://forums.auran.com/trainz/show...nline+branches ) throughout its development where you could have made some constructive comments and perhaps even helped me with some of your 'in-depth' working knowledge of the Route. But I guess for some it is easier to whinge than to be constructive. By the way, the Route was totally freeware - I did not make a cent from it. The sessions were not created by me.

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    I wasn't getting at you Bob. I have all your earlier versions of the Cornish Mainline and I really like them. The modelling compromises that were made are the same as all of us Uk modellers had to make up until recently when more grouping era appropriate assets became available. It was the sessions that really annoyed me with rolling stock and engines from all eras being homogenised together into a totally unprototypical mess. American modellers would be up in arms if I took say a Florida route and did a session using Canadian Pacific assets and it somehow ended up bundled with TS2019 and for most of us Uk enthusiasts it's exactly the same thing as was done with your Cornish route.
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    Good advice Bob, i am not going to use it. The whole thing is an absolute mess. You should stick to doing Australian routes, as you definitely have no idea about the UK and definitely not the GWR.

    If it had been freeware, i would have deleted it and kept quiet. But payware is a legitimate target for all critisism, not just constructive.

    My last word on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovetrainzloathen3v View Post
    Good advice Bob, i am not going to use it. The whole thing is an absolute mess. You should stick to doing Australian routes, as you definitely have no idea about the UK and definitely not the GWR.

    If it had been freeware, i would have deleted it and kept quiet. But payware is a legitimate target for all critisism, not just constructive.

    My last word on the subject.
    Mate, so sorry you feel that way, you seem to have some huge chips on your shoulders. As for sticking to Australian routes, lot's of your fellow countrymen don't agree with you on that one. I tried looking up some of your work for inspiration; but nothing appears on the DLS! Further, the Cornish Mainline and Branches Routes have never been payware.
    Bob Cooper

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    The only chip on my shoulder is people like you, making a hash of something.

    Then bleeting about it, when they get told it is completely wrong.

    I don't need to be a content creator to know when something is completely wrong.

    Funny that your route is included in TRS19 as payware or built in. Whichever way, that makes it something that has a price to own in.

    As i said stick to what you know. I wouldn't dream of trying to create an Auzzie route, because i know naff all about them.

    If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the fire.


    Trainz Route: Cornish Mainline and Branches ( TRS19 )

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovetrainzloathen3v View Post
    The only chip on my shoulder is people like you, making a hash of something.

    Then bleeting about it, when they get told it is completely wrong.

    I don't need to be a content creator to know when something is completely wrong.

    Funny that your route is included in TRS19 as payware or built in. Whichever way, that makes it something that has a price to own in.

    As i said stick to what you know. I wouldn't dream of trying to create an Auzzie route, because i know naff all about them.

    If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the fire.


    Trainz Route: Cornish Mainline and Branches ( TRS19 )

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    Wow!
    This is so rude, arrogant, just plain awful, and a direct personal attack. Surely it breeches the forum rules.
    There are ways of commenting without the hostility or heaven forbit even making "suggestions" which would be more fruitful.
    "Every day may not be good, but there's something good in every day."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARhian7 View Post
    Wow!
    This is so rude, arrogant, just plain awful, and a direct personal attack. Surely it breeches the forum rules.
    There are ways of commenting without the hostility or heaven forbit even making "suggestions" which would be more fruitful.
    I wouldn't worry about it Mate, the bloke obviously has a few problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert3a0 View Post
    I wouldn't worry about it Mate, the bloke obviously has a few problems.
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    Hi.

    It is just so sad to read the comments.
    Anyway, yes I will not worry about it and am off to enjoy my time in surveyor with my wip .
    "Every day may not be good, but there's something good in every day."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARhian7 View Post
    Hi.

    It is just so sad to read the comments.
    Anyway, yes I will not worry about it and am off to enjoy my time in surveyor with my wip .
    Thanks for your support Mate.
    Regards
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    Guys please...
    For those that are complaining about the sessions, I'm the one that created them, not Robert3a0...
    I will say, I didn't know that trainz is a protypical game... sure there are steam engines from different eras, but didn't anyone really think they were placed as Easter eggs?
    I only made the sessions to additional fun to the freeware route, and so the player can explore the route..

    As for the route... I personally think Robert3a0 done one excellent job at making it, and for putting the time in so everyone could enjoy it. I mean, he didn't had to share it, he could've kept it all to himself...

    Now to clear some things up, he didn't make the sessions, I did, and I didn't make the route, Robert3a0 did. Okay? I don't mind anyone reporting the route errors / bugs here, as it does fit within the topic, and does make it easier (my view) for Robert3a0 to gather feedback.

    However, I can't do anything regarding to the route itself, just the sessions. regarding to the session update (since Im here), I attempted to upload the updates to the DLS until N3V processes them (which I don't even know if there is a such thing with built-in content, since this is a first time my content is built-into a game), however, they been declined due to being payware, so I'm going to try increasing the KUID again and hope it fixes the problem. If not, then I might have to release them via my website under the Cornish Session Pack download area..

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    Now for some important info here...

    Guys, I'm going to remind you, constructive criticism imo is welcome, as long its all within topic, as they can be used to shape the direction when looked over. Personal attacks however ARE NOT WELCOME, which I just witness, and it does break the CoC.

    Copied from CoC:
    1. Submitting messages that personally attack, insult, threaten, criticise, harass or are clearly disrespectful of the opinions of other forum participants, moderators or staff. This means, if you are engaging in debates that involve discussing, questioning or disputing the opinions and views of others, you are required to do so in a civil manner and ensure that your messages are relevant and on-topic and not personal. This rule does not preclude messages that are critical or questioning in nature. It does, however, require that you avoid commenting on the person's character and carefully consider the tone in such messages to ensure that it is polite and respectful.
    View more here: http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/i...ode_Of_Conduct

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    @lovetrainzloathen3v, if you are un-happy with anything about the Cornish route and sessions, then I suggest you follow Tony's advise and edit the route and create whole new sessions to your liking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_Hilliam View Post
    Or you could edit it, create your own sessions and upload your historically accurate version to the DLS.


    However, attacking someone is NOT ALLOWED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES - paid or freeware.
    I do not want to see you doing anymore personal attacks within this post anymore, or else I will get a mod involved.
    Consider this like a warning, as when I say things, I most times do what I say.

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    Now, lets get back on topic.
    Thank you
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    Hi All
    Whilst it is permissible to provide constructive criticism or feedback on projects, it is not permissible to make personal attacks against other members, or their content. Please remember that by using the Trainz forums, you do agree to abide by the code of conduct.

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    *Please do not use Private Messages for support. Support can only be provided via the helpdesk, or via the forums.

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    I have noticed on the Helston branch that you have included Trevarno station, which was never a station on the original line. It was opened by the Helston Railway preservation society who are restoring part of the line, which is now a heritage line. Trevarno was their main base when they started up about 10 years ago. Truthall Halt, just down the line from Trevarno however you have missed out which opened in 1905.

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