Video Card info request

Railhead001

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Well, I am probably going to be biting the bullet and upgrading from my GTX-1060 (6GB) card to an Asus ROG Strix Geforce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OC Edition and was wondering if anyone has had this card and how it performs for them ?

Thanx,

RH001
 
I tried to get one for my recent gaming computer build but they were unobtainable through the retail channels here in NZ at the time due to high demand and zero supply.
Had to settle for a lesser card, the EVGA GTX 1080Ti (which is a superb performer even so) but now wonder what the UserBenchMark scores might have been with the ROG Strix...
Here are the benchmarks of the base machine completed immediately after the build was booted up for the first time and without any overclocking or performance tuning:

UserBenchmarks: Game 139%, Desk 159%, Work 139%

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K - 110.6%

GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti - 162% (EVGA GTX-1080Ti)

SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 339.3%

RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z RGB DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB - 98.7%

MBD: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING

I also have an Asus ROG Strix GTX-1070 8Gb OC which is a superb performer and the reason why I would have preferred to continue with that family line.
It has exceptionally efficient cooling and is beautifully engineered.

So I'd say hang out for the GTX 1080Ti you're looking at. You won't be disappointed.
 
I'd hold off until the new nVidia cards are out. They are expected in the fall.

If nothing else the price on the older cards should drop.

Cheerio John
 
I can't understand why folk need to ask a question such as the OP has. It must be commonsense to realize that a higher spec card, over that, that one already has, will perform better? Perhaps reassurance about such a purchase is a necessary process for the OP - and others? Or the bragging about 'I'm going to get a high spec GPU, so boo ha to you' factor (they're is quite a few folk who do that on these forums!)!

As johnwhelan says, wait 'till the new nVidia 11xx comes out and, more importantly, wait for it to be reviewed by the eager early uptakers!

Rob.
 
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I can't understand why folk need to ask a question such as the OP has. It must be commonsense to realize that a higher spec card, over that, that one already has, will perform better? Perhaps reassurance about such a purchase is a necessary process for the OP - and others? Or the bragging about 'I'm going to get a high spec GPU, so boo ha to you' factor (they're is quite a few folk who do that on these forums!)!

As johnwhelan says, wait 'till the new nVidia 11xx comes out and, more importantly, wait for it to be reviewed by the eager early uptakers!

Rob.

I don't understand why folk post statements when they are clueless on the OP's intent. So to clarifty for uninformed mentioned, the reason I asked is for a specif model, of course any higher spec would be better but that is not the point. Just because it has higher specs does not mean that it is a good card, plenty of crap quality cards with higher specs exist. So that is why I asked "if anyone has had this card and how it performs for them ?" and not "does it perform better" insert "duh". Some people care about quality goods vs. "it has higher specs but lousy performance or has a high return rate because its defective. But thanks for caring so much to post an answer to my question...…………...
 
I don't understand why folk post statements when they are clueless on the OP's intent. So to clarifty for uninformed mentioned, the reason I asked is for a specif model, of course any higher spec would be better but that is not the point. Just because it has higher specs does not mean that it is a good card, plenty of crap quality cards with higher specs exist. So that is why I asked "if anyone has had this card and how it performs for them ?" and not "does it perform better" insert "duh". Some people care about quality goods vs. "it has higher specs but lousy performance or has a high return rate because its defective. But thanks for caring so much to post an answer to my question...…………...

I have two cards one is a GTX 980 or roughly slightly higher than a GTX 1060 and a GTX 1050 TI. On a simple layout I am unable to tell the difference. On a more complex one the GTX 980 holds up better.

ASUS have a good reputation in cards but provided you don't overclock any of the nVidia cards should be fine. Personally I'd stay with ASUS but that is purely a personal choice.

TS19 is coming, Tony has talked about GTX 1070 TI but interestingly enough none of the beta testers seem to be moaning about performance and I'm quite certain they all haven't got a GTX 1070 TI GPU.

My thoughts are your GTX 1060 is a quite a reasonable card for TANE and I'm not sure that a GTX 1080 TI will give you a noticeable improvement unless you like using Sketchup built assets.

Cheerio John
 
I have two cards one is a GTX 980 or roughly slightly higher than a GTX 1060 and a GTX 1050 TI. On a simple layout I am unable to tell the difference. On a more complex one the GTX 980 holds up better.

ASUS have a good reputation in cards but provided you don't overclock any of the nVidia cards should be fine. Personally I'd stay with ASUS but that is purely a personal choice.

TS19 is coming, Tony has talked about GTX 1070 TI but interestingly enough none of the beta testers seem to be moaning about performance and I'm quite certain they all haven't got a GTX 1070 TI GPU.

My thoughts are your GTX 1060 is a quite a reasonable card for TANE and I'm not sure that a GTX 1080 TI will give you a noticeable improvement unless you like using Sketchup built assets.

Cheerio John

The problem I am encountering now is on my latest layout (Pioneer Tunnel) I have my settings maxed out except for shadows and when I have the layout fully stocked somewhere in the neighborhood of 300+ freight cars with about 6 or 7 trainz running around the layout I take a huge hit in fps. With the newly added details and all that traffic, frames drop down to 10-15fps in some areas so I want something beefy enough as a stand alone card to handle the high settings and details without dipping below 30fps. Once you have your settings maxed its hard to go back down.
 
The problem I am encountering now is on my latest layout (Pioneer Tunnel) I have my settings maxed out except for shadows and when I have the layout fully stocked somewhere in the neighborhood of 300+ freight cars with about 6 or 7 trainz running around the layout I take a huge hit in fps. With the newly added details and all that traffic, frames drop down to 10-15fps in some areas so I want something beefy enough as a stand alone card to handle the high settings and details without dipping below 30fps. Once you have your settings maxed its hard to go back down.

Each scenery asset comes with a 300 poly equivalent hit for the mesh and 200 per texture. For the moment take a look at where your layout slows down then see what's there. Repetition helps, so 50 each of each freight car is better than 300 all different. I'd honestly wait for the new cards and TS19. Also use the open preview to look at how many polys each asset is. There are scenery objects created in Sketchup that will bring any card down to its knees.

You'll be pushing the card hard so ASUS is a good company to go with they pay attention to the fans. Check your case as well does it have sufficient ventilation? The new cards should run cooler.

Cheerio John
 
johnwhelan -
I'm not sure that a GTX 1080 TI will give you a noticeable improvement

Actually, from testing and observation of all of these nVidia GPU cards in T:ANE and TRS2019, I've found there's actually a BIG difference between the framerates, smoothness and attainable visual quality settings of the GTX 1060 and the GTX 1070, let alone a GTX 1080Ti.
In most cases, I've been comparing relative T:ANE performance using Asus ROG Strix cards, which are at the upper quartile of available 3rd party video card offerings for each of these GPU processor variants.
The immediate difference the OP will note that - in most moderately scenic scenarios in T:ANE - the application can be run with everything set to 'Ultra' or the highest available settings, plus Draw Distance maxed, etc. with most of these upper echelon cards and, in particular, the GTX 1080Ti.
You cannot do that with a GTX 1060.
 
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johnwhelan -

Actually, from testing and observation of all of these nVidia GPU cards in T:ANE and TRS2019, I've found there's actually a BIG difference between the framerates, smoothness and attainable visual quality settings of the GTX 1060 and the GTX 1070, let alone a GTX 1080Ti.
In most cases, I've been comparing relative T:ANE performance using Asus ROG Strix cards, which are at the upper quartile of available 3rd party video card offerings for each of these GPU processor variants.
The immediate difference the OP will note that - in most moderately scenic scenarios in T:ANE - the application can be run with everything set to 'Ultra' or the highest available settings, plus Draw Distance maxed, etc. with most of these upper echelon cards and, in particular, the GTX 1080Ti.
You cannot do that with a GTX 1060.

It depends very much on the content you're looking at.

For example I had occasion to look at a US flatcar recently. The bogies weren't culled nor had they LOD. At a km you can't see much detail at 15 km you really can't see much detail at all but TANE will still have to work out all 5,000 polys. I dropped in an LOD

It's kuid:86627:101058. Basically without LOD you can't see the detail but for 14/15s of the time you are making TANE work to show the detail you can't see.

Cheerio John
 
johnwhelan -

Actually, from testing and observation of all of these nVidia GPU cards in T:ANE and TRS2019, I've found there's actually a BIG difference between the framerates, smoothness and attainable visual quality settings of the GTX 1060 and the GTX 1070, let alone a GTX 1080Ti.
In most cases, I've been comparing relative T:ANE performance using Asus ROG Strix cards, which are at the upper quartile of available 3rd party video card offerings for each of these GPU processor variants.
The immediate difference the OP will note that - in most moderately scenic scenarios in T:ANE - the application can be run with everything set to 'Ultra' or the highest available settings, plus Draw Distance maxed, etc. with most of these upper echelon cards and, in particular, the GTX 1080Ti.
You cannot do that with a GTX 1060.


And that's exactly what I was interested in finding out, thank you. And John thanks for your input as well and unfortunately I like having many different variants to be more realistic, lol which is one reason why my fps have dropped. If you look at my latest vid I just put up on my thread you will notice Freedom Yard and the loco facility next to it all with dozens of freight/passenger cars and locos. I am also using high poly models like RRMods new CSX AC4400CW 4-115 which is a beast of an engine, so much detail and you can open doors and access panels in different positions...extremely detailed and I know is knocking my fps down when I run them in multiples. I plan on getting that Asus ROG Strix but will wait a little to see if it drops when newer models are released, hopefully sooner then later.
 
johnwhelan -
It depends very much on the content you're looking at.

And you are absolutely correct in that statement too.

Like you, I can easily find poorly-designed assets on the DLS with high polys and zero LODs and bring even a mighty 1080Ti or Titan to its knees.
Despite my high-performance gaming machine, I take great pains to eliminate such performance-hogs from my routes and sessions in the interests of attaining exceptional smoothness and consistent framerates.

Latest intel on the next-gen nVidia cards (based on leaked emails to OEMs) is that there will be product launches on the 30th August (GTX-1180) and again in late September (1170 and 1180+) and 30th October for the 1160.
Actual availability in retail channels will be considerably later, but since there is a glut of Pascal era cards in the channels right now, expect prices to drop further as attempts are made to shift stock ahead of the new 11xx GPU launch.
The bulk of crypto-mining has shifted away from GPUs to specialist ASICs for the time being and is becoming somewhat unfashionable, so expect that there will be plenty of unwanted GPUs in the marketplace.
It will likely be some time before the Ti version of the GTX 1180 is delivered (probably not until the end of the year, in fact) if the past pattern of GPU tier launches is repeated - (i.e. 1180 and 1170, followed by 1160, then 1150 variants before the Ti version of 1180 drops).
Intriguingly, there's also mention of a 'GTX 1180+' variant in that leaked email to a channel partner and much speculation about what that actually represents if it is not simply a typo.
 
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Just hold your $$$, see what the next generation brings. I usually skip a few. I had a GTX 580, now a GTX 980, waiting for the next one, if drastic improvement, I'll get one, else wait until equivalent of 1280 series, if you just go by the model numbers.
 
Hello RH001

About your next GPU update, info from my old and new machine with GTX1080Ti information

Old machine

UserBenchmarks:
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 - 72.1%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 970 - 62.5%
SSD: Intel Raid 0 Volume 240GB - 92.1%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB - 49.8%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 C9 4x4GB - 50.3%
MBD: Asus P8Z77-V LX

New machine

UserBenchmarks:
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K - 102.7%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti - 155.3%
SSD: Intel Raid 0 Volume 500GB - 127%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 248.8%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB - 30.8%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 4000 C19 4x8GB - 75.4%
MBD: Asus ROG MAXIMUS X HERO

The change has been impressive, in all aspects

Best regards

Manuel
 
And that's exactly what I was interested in finding out, thank you. And John thanks for your input as well and unfortunately I like having many different variants to be more realistic, lol which is one reason why my fps have dropped. If you look at my latest vid I just put up on my thread you will notice Freedom Yard and the loco facility next to it all with dozens of freight/passenger cars and locos. I am also using high poly models like RRMods new CSX AC4400CW 4-115 which is a beast of an engine, so much detail and you can open doors and access panels in different positions...extremely detailed and I know is knocking my fps down when I run them in multiples. I plan on getting that Asus ROG Strix but will wait a little to see if it drops when newer models are released, hopefully sooner then later.

The CSX AC whatever probably has LOD. It's the wagon bogies I'd take a look at. They are often overlooked and run 5,000 polys and it doesn't take much to drop in a block as an lod when they can no longer be seen.

Cheerio John
 
Asus ROG Strix Geforce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OC Edition UK £819 from Ebuyer (£229 price drop) they were over £1000 a couple of months ago, prices over here seem to be rapidly dropping.
 
I picked up a Gigabyte Windforce OC GTX 1080 for $409, before taxes, at local Fry's Electronics. That is cheaper than what I paid for the eVGA GTX 980 SC AC card it replaces.
 
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