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    I am looking to release my 1st Route. I would like to have it as Payware. I know I am capable of building a .cpd file and using my website to make someone pay for the file if I decide to go that way. So these are some questions I have...

    Is there a way to embed a 'key' mechanism into the file and/or script where a user must supply a 'key' number to activate the Content / Route / Sessions?

    Is there a way for the script to call home with the activation key?

    I would prefer to have users be able to edit the Route after they buy it, but then would it not work as payware then? IE... someone could just clone it and resell it?

    How does one get their Route on Trainz store? And is it worth it versus putting on your own website, like Jointed Rail does (unlocked).

    The route is for T:ANE any version.
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    Send a request to the Helpdesk.
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    Hi Chris --

    " ... 1st Route ... release as Payware ... ."

    Do you mean:
    I have made several routes but this is the first one that I feel is sufficiently good to release as payware.
    or
    This is the very first route I have ever make and I want to release it as payware.

    If the second, based on my own personal experience, it's a very brave and courageous decision. Unless you are extremely gifted.

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by philskene View Post
    " ... 1st Route ... release as Payware ... ."

    Do you mean:
    I have made several routes but this is the first one that I feel is sufficiently good to release as payware.
    or
    This is the very first route I have ever make and I want to release it as payware.
    A search of the DLS reveals no uploads of any kind by this user, but of course he could have many on third party sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philskene View Post
    Hi Chris --

    " ... 1st Route ... release as Payware ... ."

    Do you mean:
    I have made several routes but this is the first one that I feel is sufficiently good to release as payware.
    or
    This is the very first route I have ever make and I want to release it as payware.

    If the second, based on my own personal experience, it's a very brave and courageous decision. Unless you are extremely gifted.

    Phil
    No, I have never uploaded anything yet. This is why I am asking these dumb newbie questions related to uploading content. I need some direction, I may even upload some free content.

    I have been building Routes for almost 8 years starting with TS12, and now T:ANE. I spend about 10-12 hours per week at it (I have a full time job and a wife so that's all I can get in). My approach is to build smaller sections from 3 to 20 baseboards length in size, then merge them together in different ways until I get a good working route that the AI will behave in. I had around 20 of these small Route sections complete in TS12. When T:ANE came out I found it too difficult to transfer these to T:ANE, and the quality was not there, so I started over. I had learned alot from TS12 and did not make those mistakes in T:ANE, it was also easier knowing what I wanted each section to look like. I have about 15 sections done in T:ANE and have merged a couple full size routes that look great and are about 40-50 miles in length. All sections are USA 70's ish to modern area Routes.

    One strategy would be to release the sections with no consists on them for free to everyone, then make a good full size route with 3 or 4 sessions as payware. As pware states, I have never uploaded anything yet.

    Besides the route sections, I have a dedicated route that I am working on, the Metra line from Waukegan Harbor, IL to Chicago, IL. Starts at the Wisconsin Illinois state line and goes to the end in Chicago. This is still a work in progress and is about 1/2 way done. That will be a couple years out.

    You can see some screen shots in the Trainz Gallery under my username Christopher824
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher824 View Post
    No, I have never uploaded anything yet. This is why I am asking these dumb newbie questions related to uploading content. I need some direction, I may even upload some free content.

    ...

    One strategy would be to release the sections with no consists on them for free to everyone, then make a good full size route with 3 or 4 sessions as payware.
    There are a couple of DLC routes that are free to download, Niddertalbahn and 1930s Cornish Mainline and Branches + a free session, with payware sessions available for the Niddertalbahn. So this may be a strategy worth trying. As you are an upload newbie, users will want to see the quality of your work before they are willing to hand over money.

    However, as is being currently discussed in another thread, there is a world of difference between creating layouts and creating sessions. Many creators are good at one but not the other. So posting a freeware session to go with your route might also be to your advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pware View Post
    However, as is being currently discussed in another thread, there is a world of difference between creating layouts and creating sessions. Many creators are good at one but not the other. So posting a freeware session to go with your route might also be to your advantage.
    Okay, I like this strategy, I enjoyed the fly over session with the 1930s Cornish Mainline and Branches, it did give me a good look at the Route. That's a great recommendation, a Route with a free session.

    As far as building session, I've found that the AI is my weak point, they really get me upset occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher824 View Post
    As far as building session, I've found that the AI is my weak point, they really get me upset occasionally.
    You are not alone in that. I have found that the best way to deal with the AI is to keep it simple and to a minimum. The focus of a session should be the user driving experience, not watching the AI get itself into a tangled knot. My sessions have no more than one AI train and that is usually to provide a passing train at some point along the route.
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    "As you are an upload newbie, users will want to see the quality of your work before they are willing to hand over money."

    My thoughts exactly. As a potential purchaser I'd certainly like to gauge the quality of the product before buying.

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    Thank you pware and philskene for your replies and insight. I am going to work toward the release the route with a free session, so people can look around, and then add some payware sessions. Seems your logic about letting people see the quality can't be disputed, so there it is.

    As far as how to do the payware thing, or how to lock it? Well pware says it best...

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    Thanks again people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by philskene View Post
    "As you are an upload newbie, users will want to see the quality of your work before they are willing to hand over money."

    My thoughts exactly. As a potential purchaser I'd certainly like to gauge the quality of the product before buying.
    Okay, since this discussion I have released 4 Routes and 3 Sessions for free, available in game or from the download center. The one I released this year is 'CDE Oil Refinery West' and a 'Tour' Session. I will release a few more that are almost ready very soon, and Then I am going to merge them and build some sessions, and try to release as Payware.

    As everyone here seems to be in consensus that there should be some free stuff before they would buy, any testing and opinions would be great to see what you all think of the quality of the Route(s). Full list of routes currently available at my website CDETrainz.com

    Still looking for any insight on how to submit the Payware one. Is all I really need to do is contact the help desk? Is there any kind of documentation on what is different or extra that can/should be done to it before submitting it? I know that I can add 3 thumbnails on the payware one, that don't work on the freeware ones, as I learned in another discussion. That is the only difference i am aware of so far.

    Thank you all again for all the help you have given me over the years.
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    To sell your route as payware, you'll sign up at the TCCP portal https://contentcreators.trainzportal.com/

    As for the 3 previews, they show up once it's downloaded from the DLS, or from being a payware item / built-in. Trs19 had it where you can see the pictures without uploading it.

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    N3v only takes TRS19 content for payware now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiawathamr View Post
    To sell your route as payware, you'll sign up at the TCCP portal https://contentcreators.trainzportal.com/
    ...
    Cheers
    Thanks for the info!

    I tried the link and when you press login, it gives me a blank white page, site may be down, or is it just my account?
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    Np

    Site still works, it should've given you a login page so you could login using your Trainz username and password.

    Also what whitepass said in the post under mind, they may be only taking trs19 builds now, so you might want to get a copy of trs19. The regional editions will work since you are only allowed to use the built-in content in the core game (after installation), can't use the additional downloaded content, so it won't make sense to spend much.

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