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    Question Landrvr1 content questions

    Hello Trainzers,

    All I know about landrvr1 is that we are allowed to distribute his content ONLY through email.

    But I do have a few questions:

    1. Are we allowed to distribute RESKINS of his content through EMAIL??

    2. What reskins are available for email distribution??

    Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!!!

    Thanks,
    William

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpn96 View Post
    1. Are we allowed to distribute RESKINS of his content through EMAIL??
    No

    Quote Originally Posted by wpn96 View Post
    2. What reskins are available for email distribution??
    Since #1 is no, #2 is none.

    landrvr1's departure policy made no statement regarding reskins. So the initial licensing on those models in regards to reskins still stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerRock View Post
    landrvr1's departure policy made no statement regarding reskins. So the initial licensing on those models in regards to reskins still stand.
    And what makes you think that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpn96 View Post
    And what makes you think that??
    Because I believe someone reskinned some of those California Zephyr cars and was able to send them out. For example, the Amtrak Zephyr, and maybe a few others.

    Also, I did some research on these forums and here's what I found:

    landrvr1's thread called "All my stuff":

    http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showt...light=landrvr1

    And this thread here:

    http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showt...light=betsy662

    If you look at these two threads, I'd suggest looking at the dates when they were started.
    Last edited by wpn96; January 13th, 2017 at 04:20 PM. Reason: more info to add

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpn96 View Post
    was able to send them out.
    Something being technically possible doesn't make it legal.

    If a license does not explicitly state it is allowed, it is not allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oknotsen View Post
    Something being technically possible doesn't make it legal.

    If a license does not explicitly state it is allowed, it is not allowed.
    I don't know why not.

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    The way I've always understood it when it comes to distribution is that if it's not expressly specified by the content creator in the config file or via another method (like a forum post) that content can be distributed (which includes reskins as it would technically include the content itself and would be separate from the standard distribution) then it's a case of having to get permission from the creator in order to distribute said content (or if the creator is no longer available it usually means the content can't be redistributed unless it's been specified as mentioned above).

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaneturner12 View Post
    The way I've always understood it when it comes to distribution is that if it's not expressly specified by the content creator in the config file or via another method (like a forum post) that content can be distributed (which includes reskins as it would technically include the content itself and would be separate from the standard distribution) then it's a case of having to get permission from the creator in order to distribute said content (or if the creator is no longer available it usually means the content can't be redistributed unless it's been specified as mentioned above).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpn96 View Post
    I don't know why not.
    Because it is his, so he is the only one who can tell you what you are allowed to do with it. If he didn't tell you (by means of his license) you are not allowed. It is as easy as that.

    If you still don't get it, maybe you understand it after this:
    Would a random person be allowed to delete all your email or start using it as his/her own? Or destroy your PC?
    If I follow your logic, every random person can destroy your PC and use your email account. I mean, you didn't tell everyone they are not allowed to do so.

    I can understand you don't like it, but think about your PC and email account...

    Edit:
    And I see Shane already convinced you.
    Last edited by oknotsen; January 13th, 2017 at 04:55 PM. Reason: Shane

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    Quote Originally Posted by oknotsen View Post
    Because it is his, so he is the only one who can tell you what you are allowed to do with it. If he didn't tell you (by means of his license) you are not allowed. It is as easy as that.

    If you still don't get it, maybe you understand it after this:
    Would a random person be allowed to delete all your email or start using it as his/her own? Or destroy your PC?
    If I follow your logic, every random person can destroy your PC and use your email account. I mean, you didn't tell everyone they are not allowed to do so.

    I can understand you don't like it, but think about your PC and email account...

    Edit:
    And I see Shane already convinced you.
    Hopefully my post made sense regarding that as that's how I've always understood things (although I'm more than happy to be corrected if I've got something wrong).

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    Can anyone send me the CSS&SB (South Shore Line) Single Level EMUs please? I've been looking all over for these specific EMUs because I am from that area. My email is loganrex08 AT gmail DOT com. Please send the link or whatever i need to do to obtain them to that email. Thanks.
    Last edited by PerRock; November 7th, 2019 at 06:41 AM. Reason: email broken

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    I am in quite dire need for the same product. Email:

    [email address removed]

    please

    -DH
    Last edited by oknotsen; December 9th, 2019 at 04:45 PM.

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    I have a question based on the following quote from the man himself:

    "The only thing I ask is that the content be exchanged via email / file sharing. Please do not upload to any sites (including the Download Station..."

    As I read this, it would certainly bar anyone from allowing downloads from their actual own websites, BUT, he includes file sharing as well as email. So I take that to mean someone COULD, put the files out in a DropBox, or OneDrive, or other file share and then share that link. Am I off base here?

    He goes on to say that he hoped to someday put the assets on the DLS himself, but since this was posted in 2007, I am thinking that may never happen. I realize we can do nothing with presumed intent there, so it cannot go on the DLS, although it would be interesting if he were contactable to find out whether he had changed his mind on that. What would be really nice would be if he were willing to let people update original assets to the newer versions and share them via the DLS....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forester1 View Post

    "The only thing I ask is that the content be exchanged via email / file sharing. Please do not upload to any sites (including the Download Station..."

    As I read this, it would certainly bar anyone from allowing downloads from their actual own websites, BUT, he includes file sharing as well as email. So I take that to mean someone COULD, put the files out in a DropBox, or OneDrive, or other file share and then share that link. Am I off base here?
    What would be really nice would be if he were willing to let people update original assets to the newer versions and share them via the DLS....
    I would think NOT
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    Could you clarify MP242? You think that I am not off base, or you think file sharing is not allowable from what he said? The last sentence I wrote was just a comment....
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